Anyone here?

iVillage Member
Registered: 12-04-2000
Anyone here?
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Thu, 11-01-2012 - 5:34pm

It has been very quiet since the relaunch of the boards. I know I have had some trouble logging in when I try from different computers. Some work and some don't.  If you see this and can log-on please respond so I can see who's lurking and who's able to participate. I need everyone to respond to gage participation and interest. If you can't log-on try a different computer or at least contact iVillage about your problems.

I really wonder if there are any teachers left that are working and have the time and motivation to participate here.  Several of our regulars from the past have lost jobs or changed carers completely. Some are reconsidering education as a career. Many are hanging on by a thread. Teachers I know are stressed and frustrated beyond belief. In my former district they have had over 40 meetings in the first first 50 or so days of school. Teachers are crying by the end of the day and one walked in and resigned effective immediately. Even principals are looking for jobs outside of education and openly interviewing. In my current district I haven't seen any tears but the meetings are non-stop. There is little prep time becasue of more meetings and it's all about teaching the test, assessments to see what needs remediation and more teaching the test. Many say they now hate their jobs and several are planning to take early retirement.

I guess I'm wondering if there is any time to participate or interest in maintaing this board. We can't help others if we can't help ourselves or if we no longer have an interest in furthering a career in education as it exists today.  Have we all reached the end of the road? How can we continue to help each other? Any suggestions or comments?

Please respond with your thoughts.

Sherry

Sherry
iVillage Member
Registered: 12-04-2000
In reply to: sallen06
Sat, 11-03-2012 - 9:02pm

I've had that hateful unreasonable parent experience too.  Sometimes you just can't win, but you do have to believe in yourself and keep going. That's one reason I care about the people who visit this board. The constant attacks can destroy a teacher's confidence and motivation. You have to reflect and analyze the issues and problems, accept the reality and try to change or deal with what you can.

This is a support board where teachers come to vent and look for help with tough situations. We try to help analyze the issues, acknowledge the problems, and work to see thge best path forward.That naturally gives us a more negative environment sometimes, but I think everyone needs a place to feel secure when they are down. Sharing with people that understand is vital to keep up  confidence and determination. I don't think an idea exchange or lesson plan help would generate a lot of participation either. This has never been that type of board during my participation.

In reality parents can lurk anywhere if they are an iVillage member. Someone who lurks does no harm to us. If they enjoy our pain that's their problem. If they attack with a post I try to back them down with information and a reminder of the info in our board intro. I make it clear that they don't have to agree but everyone has to respect the opinions and ideas of other who post here. It usually works. There hasn't been a real problem situation in a long time.

Thanks for your input. Maybe Jen can also offer some ideas to address your concerns and questions.

Sherry
Community Leader
Registered: 07-16-2001
In reply to: shywon
Sat, 11-03-2012 - 11:17am

I used to cl on the other board, Sherrry.  I  never understood why there were two boards for the same thing, and why when they closed that one they didn't just migrate this one to another channel.  I know parents don't tend to post here, but I am willing to bet they are lurking, reading, and judging.  I went through hell a few years ago with parents trying to get me fired for something, yet they wouldn't ever tell me what I did to make them hate me so much.  Since then, I'm paranoid about things. 

Honestly, there's a negative tone here too and it's hard for me to want to come and read when everyone is so down on a profession that I do enjoy.  I know why everyone feels that way.  It's hard to stay positive these days, especially if you're being rejected repeatedly or treated poorly by your boss.  I do think that might drive new posters away, though.

iVillage Member
Registered: 12-04-2000
In reply to: sallen06
Fri, 11-02-2012 - 8:43pm

Shy: I understand how you feel about the board. In the beginning several years ago there were a lot of parents blasting us and we spent more time explaining why their kid's teachers did what they did. I later asked for the board to be limited to teachers and I wrote a new intro to redine its focus.   iVillage later added a statement that the board was for teachers only, referred parents to other boards, and later someone edited my intro to make it a little more vague. Still, most parents stay away, though we do get a few, and the ones who post have for the most part been respectful. The other teacher board on the old  Work channel was discontinued after participation dropped there. I guess I feel the parents could find us no matter what channel we are on, but most stick to the other boards that are open to their issues and questions. 

I'd like to hear from you more often. You have a lot to offer the board. Please reconsider and join us more frequently.

Sherry

Sherry
Community Leader
Registered: 07-16-2001
In reply to: sallen06
Fri, 11-02-2012 - 7:35pm

I'm still here, still teaching, and I don't hate my job.  I am frustrated with a lot of things (the excessive testing being one of them), but I love the kids.  Just today I got a thank you note from one of my students for choosing him to get an award.  It was very much from the heart, and I really appreciated it. 

I don't post much because I still have an issue with this board being on the parenting channel.  We are not parents!  And the fact that we landed here says a lot of what is expected of us these days...which is too much.  I'm afraid of getting flamed by parent-lurkers because we are on this channel.  There are also confidentiality issues.  I'm afraid to post about specific issues because I don't want someone to be reading, think, "That's my kid!" and get in trouble for it. 

I can't read replies from my phone, so my access has diminished by about 90% since the change over.  I really wish they had tested it more.  I can post and read fine in IE on my laptop, but it's annoying to have to weed through old responses to get to new ones every single time, and to have to turn off signatures for every single page in every thread.  Hopefully the tech guys will be able to get back into their homes and back to fixing this mess soon.  After a short period, people just stop checking to see if it works and they go away for good.

 

 

iVillage Member
Registered: 12-04-2000
In reply to: sallen06
Fri, 11-02-2012 - 2:20pm

I agree with you. I'd hate to lose the board, but it seems like everyone is unemployed or so frustrated and stressed that they don't want to even discuss their issues. They live it all day in meetings and red tape requirements and don't have the interest in posting when they don't see anything or anyone making a difference. This board has never been in to the Question of the Week, contests or games. It's about support and when everyone is giving up or getting pushed out they aren't looking for friends as a lifeline. They're just too frustrated to really believe it will get better soon enough for their situation. I can name many requlars or former regulars that have changed careers or just quit teaching because they have had enough. The newbies seem to post once and never come back to respond to our comments. Times have definitely changed.

I think I'm done with education when I get the library completed.  It just isn't fun anymore. I wanted to retire completely and do someting different when I left higher ed. I let them entice me back for this job and while it is OK I just don't like what I see in education as a whole. I think I'd be too inclined to buck the system and teach what they need, not just the test. I know I'd be in trouble for questioning everything and speaking up too much. Not worth it.  Just this week they refused to put a data projector and screen, that we already have, in the library because it was too much trouble and the cables will cost them a few bucks. Huh?  I need it to teach the catalog, research and info literacy, but they don't care. The techies can veto what a teacher wants and needs to do the job!

The parents need to get a clue and demand that the politicians and administrators let the teachers have a voice and the freedom to teach.  This environment is anti teacher and anti education. Tests and more tests don't educate or prove the students have really learned anything useful.

Good luck with the sub job and continued search for a permanent position. Maybe something will open for the second semester.

Sherry
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iVillage Member
Registered: 08-23-1997
In reply to: sallen06
Thu, 11-01-2012 - 10:33pm
I'm here. I had some trouble initially. I had all of my favorite ivillage boards bookmarked and then the bookmarks no longer worked after they switched over. I've checked in a couple of times and then the hurricane hit. I live in the Northeast and I just got power and Internet back. As you know I'm one of the unemployed teachers. I just applied for another long term sub position but, who knows if I they will contact me. Sorry, but I have no suggestions for the board. I'm very disillusioned with the state of education but, I do like to come here and commiserate with other educators. I hope the board doesn't shut down. I've been here so long I would miss it event though I'm not teaching now and have no idea where, if anywhere my career is going.