Elementary vs Secondary-what say you teachers??

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Elementary vs Secondary-what say you teachers??
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Sun, 08-07-2011 - 1:53pm

I've heard many say, "ooohhh I cant stand working with older kids" Or "ooohh I cant stand working with the younger kids" And I find that two very distinctive personality types go along with this.

I've heard Elementary teachers say, "older children dont listen have lost hope are too aggressive and rude, blah blah blah"

Then I've heard Secondary teachers say, "I cant stand all that touchy feely cutesy stuff that Elementary teachers have to do, makes me cringe, I dont want to be bothered with that, older kids dont need all that, you just tell them what to do and move on"

Now of course I am an Elementary teacher who has honestly tried to work with older kids and they have been so ignorant and low minded in their thoughts and behaviors and actions,

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I have taught in early childhood through middle school. I love every level for a different reason. I was never an over the top cutsie person, but I like having a bright room. I consider myself to be friendly and outgoing, but not bubbly either. But I notice that I have changed myself to fit every grade level I have taught. I feel most at home in upper elementary, but I think middle school is not a far stretch from upper elementary. In fact I have been thinking about getting back into middle school for a while so I only have to write 1 or 2 plans a day and really master the subject I am teaching.
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Well frankly, I've only worked with older children from urban innercity environments and for the most part they are horrible so I want to get over my disdain and do it but honestly, my heart and soul is elementary.
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When I was teaching full time, I was teaching middle school, but as a sub I've done K-12.

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I've worked only in middle and high schools. I think you just worked in really bad areas. I've worked in urban schools too but, maybe not as urban as yours and I thought the kids were ok. Certainly not the way you described them. Some yes, but no way all or most. This district had housing projects and about 25% of the kids come from non-English speaking homes. I was the librarian in the HS there.I also had students tell me they couldn't return their overdue library book because they were in jail and I would see kids names in the local paper because they were arrested but, even so, I though most of those kids were fine. Maybe it's different as a non-classroom person.
I have taught daily library classes for 6th grade students and to me, they are still babies. They belong in elementary school if you ask me. I like 6th graders because from my experience they are still like little kids in a lot of ways. Some of them can be rude and disrespectful, but not in the ways high schoolers can. I think you should give 6th grade a try. I don't think kids get the bad attitude for the most part until 7th grade.
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Well I did want to move on from the student I'm with now. I cant take cleaning her up anymore, its just too uncomfortable for me.

Lets see, one year I taught eigth grade summer school and the kids did not know a damn thing and were very mean. The next summer I taught 6th grade summer school and they knew a little more but were always fighting and talking so much it was hard to teach anything.

Then after I lost my job, I subbed with middle school students and had two students constantly asking me what would I do if they attacked me. It just got ridiculous at one point.

And I've worked in K-8 schools where the older kids were horrible to the younger kids and bullied and picked on them. Was it everyone, no but I just didnt like being around them.

I'll see what's up. Its just as an aide, so I dont have to be the teacher. But maybe 6th grade could be my limit. I dont know, depends on the group and the adults in the school. If the adults are inconsistent, I dont see myself staying too long at this school.

I'll let you all know how it goes, but keep giving me feedback. I like it.

Ruth

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I've had them all and I am one that finds MS and HS almost intolerable because they have such horrible attitudes and are so self-centered.

Sherry
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Yeah it really does depend on the environment, with all grades really. I've been in an elementary where the kids were horrible too and the adults just allowed it. So it can be a crap shoot. However, I've some experience with them and its just not me. Regardless of the mess, its not me. So many dynamics at play with the older ones, just cant deal. We'll see.
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At exactly 1:30 today, It just hit me. I'm not a teacher anymore. Ever since I've been on this board its been nothing but a rollercoaster and its just time to get off. I'll be an aide while I go back to school to persue a new path. I cant fight this fight anymore. I'm letting it all go. Two straight years of rejection. Losing the one job at the one school I loved and losing everything I had. I'm done fighting. I'm done.

Thanks ladies,

Ruth
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I figured that out a few months ago. I completely know how you feel.

Sherry
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I was in tears waiting on a call that never came and sending out my billionth resume when a voice in my head said just give it up. When I looked at the time, it was 1 thirty.

I've gained weight, been depressed and broke as hell for many years all for someone else's children and now I have nothing to show for it.

I'm not seeking another degree either, just gonna keep the aide job, find something part time on the side and accept my place in life. And work on getting some help because I cant get my thoughts out of these bad places.

I'm giving up my apartment in two months to probably rent a room somewhere and by next summer, I'm just gonna go back to the ghetto of Detroit and stay where I belong. I"ve tried for too long to have the life I deserved and its just not working.

I'm done, I'm so over and done, I'm just done. This whole career has been one big fat mistake and I'm ashamed of myself and my life. I have nothing. Nothing.

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