What's the hiring process like?

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What's the hiring process like?
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Sun, 05-28-2006 - 10:21pm

I've been applying for jobs and making calls and dropping off resumes. Of course, I did this all last year, too.

Anyway, I just received a letter back from one district that gives me the details about their job fair. It states that it is not necessary to attend, but it's a great way for principals to meet prospective candidates and recommend their employment. That's the way THEY do it...the principals do the interviews, choose someone, and recommend them to the personnel director who ultimately decides if they are hired.

Another district has you go through a 2-step interview process before you can even be considered for employment. I honestly don't know what happens for the actual hiring because I didn't even get to the first interview (I got hired on in my top-choice district).

In my local district, only the principal can hire you. The personnel director has no part of the hiring process (if only he did...he was so excited when I went talk to him and told him that I was teaching MS math and that I'm highly qualified for that and for MS science). The principal hires you, it gets put on the agenda for the school board's "approval" (they read off the names--the board says "aye"..done deal). In this district, it is VERY VERY rare to be hired at the job fair, in fact, the job fair hardly even helps anyone, BUT you have to go. It's all part of the "tradition" or something, but if a principal finds out you weren't there and you're not an insider, there's very little hope for you.

I'm just surprised at how different these 3 adjoining districts in the same state are.

What is it like in your area?

Alysha


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Mon, 05-29-2006 - 9:20am

Here in CT it also varies from district to district. Sometimes the principal hires and the personnel office is a rubber stamp, other times you must be interviewed by the personnel director and then ou have a building level interview. I have been to both kinds.

We have a few regional job fairs here, but I don't think any hiring gets done there, but I could be wrong. I have only attended one.

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Mon, 05-29-2006 - 12:48pm

Some districts around here only hire at the job fairs. Other districts, the principal hires. At the charter school I worked for, I was hired by a panel of people who gave me tests! Some places you sign up for a job AND have to send in a letter of interest to the principal. Other places you sign up and hope for the best. I don't think there is any "set" way that people hire around here. You just have to jump through the hoops and hope you are playing the game correctly.

Tamie

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Mon, 05-29-2006 - 6:51pm

There are a couple of different job fairs in Washington State, and my district goes, but it is not by any means required - it is for recruiting/information more than anything. Most districts go, but I don't think many interviews/hires actually happen.

We have 4 high schools, 7 middle and 26 elementary schools, as well as an alternative high school and our application process just went completely online this year, but all hiring is done at the building level. Usually by a committee of teachers and the principal at the elementary level, with more administrative and parental input at the secondary level. When I was first hired at an elementary there were also two distric music coordinators at the interview, since I was a music teacher, but I don't know if that is standard or because my principal was new and not comfortable with music. I know the coordinators make themselves available to help, and try to be involved as possilbe, but they do not actually have any admin authority, so they are not always a part of the process. They do not get the pay or respect they should for all the hours they put in - imagine that!

I transferred to my current middle school during a district transition from JH to middle schools, so there was no interview at all - the coordinators took into account seniority/experience in specific areas (I had junior high choral experience)/staff request, etc. It was a big shake up district-wide, and we were lucky that our coordinators were given input over our transfers..... it could have been UGLY - kind of like the involuntary transfers that happened to some of the 6th and 9th grade teachers. I got lucky.....

Cara

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Mon, 05-29-2006 - 8:17pm

How does the parental input work? That's very interesting.

The job fairs here are all individual district job fairs. The universities do have job fairs for their education students. None of the local school districts hire, but some districts in California & Florida offer open contracts right there. Other districts in Texas pretty much promise a job if you promise to come out to them for the paperwork.

Alysha


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Sat, 06-03-2006 - 2:00pm

Well, I don't know if there are actually parents on the hiring committee, but at one of our high schools they hired a new principal after quite a bit of scandal and unhappiness, so each of the final three candidates attended community forums where the community could interact with them, then they did a group Q and A. I don't know how much impact the process had on the outcome, but I think the parents raised some interesting questions that the committee might not have thought about/asked, so they definitely got a new perspective.

Since I last posted MY principal announced that she is leaving, so we are just beginning the hiring process for next year. She was kind of the 'hatchet man' who came in and cleaned up after a very ineffective administrator. She made some drastic changes and improved discipline quite a bit, but I think she is bipolar, and most of the staff tiptoes around her. It was not unusual to walk past her office and hear her screaming into the phone or at a live person....you ALWAYS check the weather with the office staff before approaching her with anything. She pretty much ruled through fear... so while she made some important changes, I am happy she is moving on. Hope we can find an effective leader who isn't crazy - wish us luck.

My former building (an elementary) did a vote of no-confidence and the district forced their insane principal to resign - she is now wreaking havoc with grade-level reassignments and petty revenge in the last three weeks. My dear friend says the staff has adopted the phrase "DECP" as their motto - "Don't Engage the Crazy Person"...they just nod and agree to whatever she says, then do what needs to be done on their own. How sad is that?

My son's elementary principal is retiring, and I know of at least two other buildings searching for new principals in my district. What are the odds we will find a good one????????????

15 school days and 4 performances left!!

Cara

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Sat, 06-03-2006 - 2:58pm

Wow..sounds like some definite issues there! UGH! And so many open principal spots...hope you and your son's school each get a good one.

Our district had a lot of principal spots open for next year, too. This was definitely the year for principals, I guess!

Alysha