Zip it!

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Sat, 01-28-2006 - 10:33pm

Do you think that has a negative connotation?

I never say "shut up" and don't allow students to say it either. I know of teachers that allow "shush upwards" but I don't like that either.

I used "Zip It" last year in another school in a more affluent area...it kind of got me to their level and worked.

But I'm starting to get the feeling that maybe "Zip It" is almost as inappropriate as "Shut Up"...at least where I am now. Since I am so used to saying it, it will be hard to break myself from it (I still say gonna and I still say y'all!).

Would you consider it inappropriate?

Edited to add: I also use "Quiet" and "Silence" and of course, "Shhhh", so "Zip It" is not all I say.

Alysha




Edited 1/28/2006 10:35 pm ET by alygator

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Sun, 01-29-2006 - 7:59am

Well - - here's the test.
If your husband said it to you while your were trying to tell you something - - would it feel like "shut up"?

It sure would to me!

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Sun, 01-29-2006 - 11:16am

well, I'm from your neck of the woods, and zip it would be fine. I'm sure I've used it and never thought twice about it. Along with "be quiet", "close your mouth" "stop talking", and any number of other things. I don't like shut up, either. Sometimes I will look at the offender and instead of correcting them, I'll say, "I want to tell you something - see if you can read my mind," and about 95% of the time, they'll respond appropriately with "Sit down" or "be quiet".

We had a wise science teacher who always had a very orderly classroom when I was in it. He had a roster printed out for each class, and if he had to speak to a student more than about once, he gave them a "mark". On Wednesday's he always sent home a slip with their grade and the number of corrections they had received. This was a 10 point grade for them to return signed each week. At the beginning of the year, he would assign each student a "secret number" and he would call out the grades using that. The kids would write the info on the slips. If they received 0 corrections for the week, he would issue them a slip which could either be used as an "emergency hall pass" (no one was allowed out of his room without one) or saved and turned in at the end of the 9 weeks for extra credit points. I was always amazed at how easily it seemed to work for him.

I also say y'all and gonna and any number of things that I've learned from my students.

And DH just better not even go there and tell me to be quiet.

Karen

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In reply to: alygator
Sun, 01-29-2006 - 4:28pm

I use respect and cooperation as a guideline.

Sherry

 

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Sun, 01-29-2006 - 7:41pm

I use every form of "be quiet" I know. Here's my list and yes it includes shut up:

Stop Talking, Zip your lips, Zip it up, Zip it lock it, put it in your pocket, Be quiet, Silence please, Cierren La Boca (shut your mouth in spanish) Femme La Bouche (shut up in French) Close your mouth, Shut your mouth, Shut your traps, Cut it, Quiet yourselves and when I have said all that and they just don't get it, I say, "okay students I am now at shut up" That's right, I said every other nice version possible and you missed it so now, I am asking you to SHUT UP. If you can't understand that, well then maybe this class is not the place for you. And they are usually totally quiet then. I don't have to use it very often, just those cases where they have way too much to say and are not attempting to get their work done.

Sorry if some of you don't like it but I can't censor everything I say because it becomes a full time job after a point. I don't yell or scream shut up, I say it in a calm voice but it brings results so I use it sparingly. Don't want it to lose power.

GT34

Alygator, "Zip it" is fine. Don't worry.

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Mon, 01-30-2006 - 8:59pm

That's a good way to look at it.

Unfortunately, as I thought about it, I would be AS offended if he told me to "Be Quiet" or "Shhh", and maybe more so because they are more "serious" and "Zip it" or "Shut up" are more jovial.

Thanks for the input.

Alysha


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Mon, 01-30-2006 - 9:00pm

I like that idea of "Can you read my mind?" Of course, after something that happened today in one class, I don't know that I'd want to go there..lol.

That sounds a lot like what our 7th grade science teacher does. He's got this massive chart that I'd have trouble figuring out, though...lol.

Alysha


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Mon, 01-30-2006 - 9:05pm

I know all about the respect thing.

And I guess what you said about words being used against you is what got me thinking about it. I'm teaching in a small rural school and I'm an outsider (I live 40 minutes away). It's one reason why I won't be sad if I have to teach at another school next year...to get away from that small town vs. outsider mentality. (But there's a lot of reasons that I DO want to stay at this school as well...and besides, you get more respect even as an outsider the longer you teach there.)

I did say it a few times today, and I think it was my own worrying, not necessarily reaction from the students.

Thanks!

Alysha


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Mon, 01-30-2006 - 9:05pm

Thanks GT. Where've you been? Been missing your posts. It's great to see you again!!

Alysha


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Mon, 01-30-2006 - 9:08pm

I wanted to reply again to you, because I started replying before I read the other posts. I'm very surprised at the response that I got and expected it to be more negative/critical of the term. I didn't want you think that I didn't appreciate your advice, and your great take on deciding if it's appropriate or not.

Thanks again,
Alysha


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Wed, 02-01-2006 - 9:54pm

I don't have a problem with zip it. When they're really loud, I break out the Fox-40 whistle. ;-)

Angela