Shots!!! Anyone had to do this???

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Shots!!! Anyone had to do this???
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Tue, 08-07-2012 - 12:13am

Well I had another o.b appt today and still could not here heartbeat yet :smileysad: but doc did see the sack and yolk:smileyhappy:..He said it looks okay so far. Now here is my question..my blood panel came back and I tested positive for the blood clotting factor thing (sorry I can't remember the name) anyway I have to do shots everyday until week 34. The doc was going to have me on loevnox (I think that's the name) but it was way spendy for me so I am going to do Heparin instead and I guess it is about the same thing but Heparin is older and has to be mixed and the other med you don't have to. Heparin is covered buy my insurance and cost way less for me. Has anyone done this? I am really scared to do this not because I am afraid of shots but because giving them to myself makes me feel qeezy:smileysurprised:! Also I don't know the side effects and I have a heart issue with irregular rhythms ect. Not dangerous just scares me when I feel the flip flopping of my heart..I have a cardiac doc..do you think I should call him and ask about this? I don't know ..what if any of you have experienced with this med? Please help I start tomorrow after I pick it up .

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Registered: 04-15-2012
Tue, 08-07-2012 - 8:08am
I haven't had to do it yet, but as soon as I get a positive test, I will be right there with you! I have what is called factor c deficiency. From what the dr told me, the lovenox helps thin the blood, to prevent clotting that could harm baby. I have read a lot of posts of women who have done the shots. I have heard it is very painful, but pain can be reduced by applying ice to the area first. It also causes bad bruising. I would definitely call your ob and find out the name, because there r a lot of different clotting disorders. Then call your cardiac doc to let them know. My rheumatologist wanted my lab results for his file. I know it will be tough for you at first, but once you get the hang of it, it will be like brushing your teeth. Its great that they tested you, and are taking preventive measures. Let us know how it goes. You can do it!
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Tue, 08-07-2012 - 11:44am

Hi Jen, It was the off brand of lovenox they checked out for me and it was expensive as well :smileysad:, but if a lot of women do the heparin instead then I think that is reassuring for me. I don't like that I have to do this but I will do what ever I can to save this little baby I so badly want. I am happy that there may be an answer to why I miscarried before and may be I can prevent it from happing again....My fingers are crossed because this will be the last time I try no matter how it ends and I would love to have a happy ending!!!! Thank you so much ladies for your feed back I would be lost without you all. Next step for me this morning is to call my cardio doc...wish me luck that he give the heparin an okay!

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Tue, 08-07-2012 - 9:51pm

So I called the doctor back today to find out the name of the blood clotting disorder I have and I was told it is called Factor five lieden...anyone else have this? I got my heparin today and I was told to do it twice a day morning and night. I am terrified!!!! I am not only afraid to do the medication but I am so afraid of getting a blood clot that would kill me. I have been crying all day and I am an emotional wreck!!! I feel like this may sound strange but I feel like I was just diagnosed with a terminal disease or something...WHAT IS WRONG WITH ME!!!!

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Tue, 08-07-2012 - 10:58pm

Hi, Cherry--I'm TOTALLY just lurking over here from TTCAMC.  I have all kinds of experience with this.  Factor V is the most common blood clotting disorder (I was diagnosed after Andrew died and my brother was in med school at the time).  The doctors said it's more common to have m/c with Factor V than stillbirths, because the clotting is always there.  I took Lovenox when I was pregnant with my DD (she's 23 months now), switched to heprin at 35-36 weeks.  Heprin is in your system for a shorter period of time and in case you go into early labor there's less chance of a bleed.  The bruises can get NASTY.  If I were on my work laptop I'd attach my tummy photos--big and round and BLACK with bruises, it was hard for people to look at.  Ice REALLY helps.  With New Baby, I was on the generic (still expensive) and was better about icing so I had less bruising.  Did they give you any sort of training about how to do this??? My OB had my "trained" by her nurse and I had to practice (on an old silcone breast insert, of all things).  I was told to do the shot within an inch of the bellybutton, to watch the bruising, if it seemed excessive to draw around it with Sharpie to check to see if it got bigger throughout the day (I never had a problem).  They didn't want me to shave or be around knives, watch for paper cuts, etc (remember that I'm an art teacher).  It really was all OK, especially since DD was born healthy and fine.  OH! One more thing: it depletes your calcium supply, so I had to take an extra +D (the huge horse pill kind).  Did they say anything about that?

You really will get used to it, and it's alllll worth it for a sweet baby at the end.  Let us know how it's going.

 

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Tue, 08-07-2012 - 11:51pm

Hi Amiee! I am so glad you were over here and looked at my post!!! I wanted so bad to ask you gals on the ttc board as well but I did not want to hurt anyone or step on toes. I am thankful right now you have no idea...thankful for you! I have been freaking out all day and have not yet started my shots because I am scared and I have no idea what I am doing. The doc and pharmacist both told me to do this in my stomach but did not tell me where in my stomach,what to watch for or anything. I was reading up online all day about factor five and what is can do..it is so scary to me..for me and loosing my baby again as well. I have always been afraid of maybe getting a blood clot after having a baby but never knew why...kind of strange I know. I have anxiety and panic disorder and have for as long as I can remember..I hate it ! Anyway I never knew I had this and I have had babies before with no issues until now. Is this something that just all the sudden comes on? I wonder why it is just now showing up and giving my problems. I just really don't want to miscarry my baby again so I will do this but I am afraid to start when I have no idea of what I am doing..I feel like I need to go in to the O.B tomorrow and have them show me. Is there any other side effects that you had other than bruising? I also called my heart doc today to get an okay to take the Heparin because I have heart rhythm issues..but they never called me back GRRR!!!! I am so angry!! I feel like this is so important and I feel like I am not getting the help and answers I need from my doctors..I mean this is my babies life at stake here and I feel like they don't care. It's like oh here Cherry.. you have this clotting factor and it can make you miscarry so you have to take this shot twice a day this is the prescription good luck!! " My O.B told me that this Factor five was not harmful for me just for the baby but from what I saw on the internet he is wrong...am I correct?  I know I am sorry I am a complete mess and am about ready to have a melt down! Thank you Amiee for your very much needed help! ((HUGS))

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Registered: 06-26-2008
Wed, 08-08-2012 - 6:17pm

Hi, yeah, I had my oldest DD at 21 with no problems and I smoked!!! Terrible, I know.  Never thought there'd be any problems with Andrew: it was a picture-perfect pregnancy until it wasn't.  Idk why it's a problem in some pregnancies and not in others.  My peri thought it might have to do with how deeply it's implanted, and that's something you have no control over.  Some people have 5-6 kids and later test positive for Factor V.  My OB said this is why they don't screen everyone: sometimes it's just not a problem.

Don't forget about taking extra calcium +D--Lovenox and Heprin deplete your calcium supply.  A lady at my church (she's elderly) is on Lovenox all the time because she kept getting clots.  It's not the best stuff for you, but it stopped her clotting. 

One more thing: below and to the sides of the belly button are far less painful than above the belly button.  More fat=less pain.

Let me know how it's going!

 

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Wed, 08-08-2012 - 7:18pm
I was going to give buy some of the tips that we teach patients at the hospital but seriously, Aimee covered EVERYTHING! Read up on her posts and save them even ao you can refer back, that was all great advice and information! I don't know much about your disorder though, just the meds because a lot of cardiac patients are on them for one things or another. I hate that Lovenox is still so expensive because obviously people would rather do 1 shot a day than 2-3. Heparin is short acting and lasts about 12 hours so make sure you take both shots routinely. If you miss one for the day then you are unmedicated during that time. I'm sure you will do fine!! I'm sorry you have to deal with tht and hope you get your rainbow baby at the end. You are (both!) such strong mamas for doing all that for your baby!

(had to edit because unmedicated was autocorrected to "uneducated" and that just sounded so bad, lol)





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Wed, 08-08-2012 - 7:24pm

Thank you Amiee! I called my O.B doc and set up an appt for tomorrow to help show me how to do this. I will also get some vitamin D as well. My heart doc called me back and wants me to see a hemotologist so I called to set up that appt as well. This Factor Five thing really through me through a loop! It is very strange how these kind of disorders don't always show up until later. I also smoked with my first child and no issues..I feel bad I did this but am thankful that nothing was wrong. Now that I am trying to do things right things are going wrong.

I am so very sorry about Andrew Amiee! I can not say I know your pain because I can not even begin to imagen how you must feel to have lost him. I only know the kind of pain I felt having suffered a miscarriage and this was tuff for me..but to have a stillbirth or the though of it is heartbreaking. I don't have many words other than I offer you my hugs and anytime you need a freind know I am here. Again thank you for being here for me you are wonderful! How are things with you ? I have not really been over to visit much on the other board but I miss you all!

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Wed, 08-08-2012 - 7:31pm

Thank you Jenn! It helps having all this info! I will be starting this tomorrow after I go back to the O.B for them to show me..oh I forgot to mention..the nurse called me today to say they had talked to my pharmacy and I was given direction to take the wrong amount..it was to much the nurse said! So scary!!! I knew there was a reason I had not started this yet!!!!  Who knows what could have happened..my goodness!!!

 

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Thu, 08-09-2012 - 4:27pm
Hi there!
I also have Factor V Leiden and I had to do heparin shots twice a day during and after my pg. Factor V is hereditary (my dad, uncle and cousin also have it) and it is incredibly common! Do not worry!!! I think I remember reading a statistic that over 5% of people have it and many will never even know! I only found out because I suffered from recurrent pg. loss (had 6 losses before my DD). I also had to take one low dose aspirin daily because heparin does not cross the placenta, but aspirin does. I took heparin until 6 weeks post-partum and will begin taking it again as soon as I get pg. again. I have had no trouble with blood clots EVER even when I wasn't on heparin. Just remember that Factor V is VERY common! We are at an increased risk for m/c without heparin or lovenox, so it is excellent that your dr. is on top of things and has prescribed the meds. for you.
You will bruise all over your belly, but I found that applying a lot of pressure to the area after injecting helped a lot. Also, I found that reclining slightly reduced the stinging when injecting. Try not to move around too much in the first few minutes after injecting and that seems to help reduce bruising too.
Feel free to ask any questions!

Triona

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