preschool

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Mon, 04-09-2012 - 12:46pm

Did you send your kids, if so when and would you again???

My youngest is 3 and he will miss the kindy cut off by 17 days. We maybe able if there are empty seats to get in but may not be at same school as Liam. Right now he goes to an in home day care. Its like going to grandma's but with friends. She has 5 kids currently they range from 6mnths to 3.5. Liam went there until he was just over 3 and we felt pressure from everyone around us (not the sitting) that he should be in a preschool type setting so we made the move. Looking back I wish I waited a year. Liam is creature of habbit and that became an issue with the adjustment from kindy to preschool and even kindy to 1st. Not that the adjustment wouldn't have been less from day care to preschool but with preschool he learned the ropes, he learned how to use his charm for his benefit and eventhough teacher turn over was high and he did move from preschool to pre-k while there. The difference in classroom structure was the same so then kindy was different but not too different from pre-k but 1st grade was a complete 180.

Now Jake is NOT Liam but at the same he would need to do awhole other year of preschool most likely. She isn't asking us to move him and to be honest she is a LOT cheaper then many of the options and her hours work with ours. I don't drive so we need a place that is open early enough DH can take him or close to home and or Liam's school. I also seeing how things are once in school I just want him to be in less structured place for as long as I can. If that makes sense?? Plus it seemed so much or kindy was just a repeat of what they did in preschool and that again I think work in someways against Liam because well he knew that stuff so school was easy and he didn't to work so much and then it caught up to him...

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In reply to: liamsmom724
Mon, 04-09-2012 - 4:02pm
We did preschool for both boys and it was good for them. We would have had them in daycare anyway, so I figured they might as well be in a more school-like setting. Not that structure was at the forefront of my mind, I guess, I just wanted them to be doing more than what I was seeing at daycare.

My oldest son only went for one year (then ended up repeating Kindy, so I guess I should have kept him in preschool for the 2nd year). My younger son did preschool twice and is academically very ready for Kindy now. I have a feeling he'll end up doing Kindy twice for maturity reasons though.

I think our preschool was really beneficial. They use a play-based, educational curriculum called Tools of the Mind. It really preps them for the stuff they'll be learning and doing in Kindy without seeming rigid or overly structured for 3 and 4 year olds.
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In reply to: liamsmom724
Tue, 04-10-2012 - 9:01am

Since we were both working at the time, the boys did childcare/preschool.




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In reply to: liamsmom724
Tue, 04-10-2012 - 12:44pm

see maybe thats part of my hestitation. We did have a bad experience but we didn't have a great one and in comparision to the place I took him out of to go to preschool which we LOVED guess thats one reason I maybe dragging my feet. When I did the math realized Jake is already older then Liam when I moved him so if I wait until the fall even if he doesn't start kindy until 6 thats only 2 years. He's my little peanut...literally especially compared to his jolley green giant of a brother, but he is the oldest one at day care but he's the same size and smaller then some of the 2 year olds, so that and being my baby and my last baby he just still seems so young.

I do plan on sending him its really just a matter of now or waiting. What gets me is more my school slow approach into kindy. Yes there are some kids who still don't go to preschool but if that info is on the registration forms can't you have an idea who has who doesn't maybe structure classes that way or if more the HALF the kids have had don't EASE them so slow. Liam went from full time preschool/day care to 2 weeks of half a days kindy ROCKED then SLAM back to long days and he HATED school.

As for preschool availiablity. We have one in the town its not free and it actually costs more then private runs. I was floored. I know there is a seperate headstart but still. I can see why parents who don't qualify for headstart would shy away. I'd like to send him to the city because thats the kids he will be going to school with and such but its just not affordable especially if you need full time care. Full days no after school alone is $40 a day.

That said I do have a call out to 2 places to see thinking this fall that would give 2 years if he can't get in kindy the following fall and I have the option of private kindy as well at that point so at least it would be a change if I found he was getting to work the system too good like Liam

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In reply to: liamsmom724
Wed, 04-11-2012 - 2:05pm
It all depends on your philosophy and needs. I had a friend who on purpose did not teach her kids their alphabet. They did learn to count, but because they were helping Dad with work. Her idea was, if they learned all the basics before kinder, then they would be bored in kinder. They entered ready to learn and picked up very quickly and are both at the head of their classes.

I did not do pre-k, because I could not afford it. But, I did do lots of reading to my kids, spent time at the library, taught them to count and do alphabet. My daughter has a late birthday and wanted to learn to read the year all her neighborhood friends entered kinder. So I taught her. She WAS bored in kinder, and 1st, and it is a good part of why we homeschool. When my oldest was a preschooler, people did ask what preschool she went to because she was so smart, sociable and polite. When I said "none" it was a real conversation stopper, so I started saying I home schooled, which I did not feel I was doing.

Despite what Heather says about kids being behind when not in preschool, mine have done just fine. I did enroll my kids in gymnastics, which did help with my typical kids for lines, following directions and such. My non-typical kid needed help that the school would not give (he wasn't delayed educationally, just socially.) If I had not gone to the park, I would have gone nuts. We met lots of other kids and became good friends with many in our neighborhood, which was more beneficial, in my opinion, because these were local kids they could walk to play with - no need to drive across town. They learned much more playing at the park about how to get along, take turns and such than they would have in a pre-school with adults telling them what to do every few minutes.

Personally, I feel little kids should have the chance to explore learn in a way that comes natural to them. If they are interested in learning to read, they will ask, like my daughter did. If they are interested in bugs, they will find them in the yard. I have one kid who no matter how hard I try to get him to learn stuff, he will not learn it until his brain is ready (not the same one as I wanted special services for.) But once his brain is ready, he gets it in a snap. But if I put him in a preschool and he wasn't getting the stuff that the other kids were, I would worry that he would feel that he wasn't smart, which he is, on his own timeline.
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In reply to: liamsmom724
Wed, 04-11-2012 - 2:10pm
Oh, and I never thought I would be homeschooling full time. That came later.
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Registered: 08-31-2009
In reply to: liamsmom724
Wed, 04-11-2012 - 4:40pm

I did not say ALL kids who don't go to preschool are behind when entering K, but unfortunately I see enough of them.




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Registered: 05-02-2004
In reply to: liamsmom724
Fri, 04-13-2012 - 10:46am
I would hazard a guess that the original poster does not meet the criteria of any of those, lazy, uneducated or different thinking parents. The blanket statement that you made makes it seem like all kids who enter without preschool are behind, when in fact they are not. It sounds like many of those that you list above should qualify for Head Start. The original poster, I would suspect probably does not qualify. I certainly feel that she has taken her kids to the library a few times, and she is rich enough to have a computer, so I have no doubts that your "advice" did more to scare or offend than actually be useful.

Oh, and I am one of those parents who feels that kids should have time for their own interests after school time is done. My kids are certainly still learning, but it is about their 4-H projects, building, gardening and life skills, and yes, sometimes computer games, that are certainly as important as knowing their times table (when they, like most other people, will use a calculator when they grow up! )

You are certainly entitled to your opinion, but do realize that probably a fair number of the kids that you see as "problems" are also entitled to extra services that due to parents own learning differences or language barriers they are probably not aware that they exist. If they were, they would have their kids in the services, as that is part of the reason that they are here. ;-)
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In reply to: liamsmom724
Fri, 04-13-2012 - 11:39am
treddlesewingmachine wrote:


You are certainly entitled to your opinion, but do realize that probably a fair number of the kids that you see as "problems" are also entitled to extra services that due to parents own learning differences or language barriers they are probably not aware that they exist. If they were, they would have their kids in the services, as that is part of the reason that they are here. ;-)

Yes, they are entitled to those extra services and many take advantage of them........... but the paperwork and hoops that you have to go through to qualify turn many away and then when the County goes and pulls their funding for those services and all the funding that is left is the small amount the Federal Government pays for, well there's just not enough to go around.




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Registered: 09-12-2003
In reply to: liamsmom724
Fri, 04-13-2012 - 12:23pm

Well as the original poster I do feel the need to confess I have taken Liam to the library once and my 3 year NEVER. Have thought of it but don’t drive, it’s a bite of hike, not one I want to do in the snow. The weekend bus service by my house is basically nonexistent and even if I did by the time we trecked down there I’d have 2 pooped kids not to mention mom. Plus with activities and such our Saturdays are often pretty scheduled. Summers are more relaxed but the library closes earlier on weekdays and closed on Saturdays. Sorry I roll my eyes every time I hear at school you can just go to the library and if it’s an obstacle for us I imagine lower income families have it just as bad. It actually would be easier for me to go to library in the city but Liam gets anxious at big crowds and it’s usually pretty busy.

Anyway, as for being behind because you don’t know your ABCs, from our experience since preschool isn’t mandatory where I am they plan for most kids NOT knowing that stuff so they kids who do know it are often held back vs. kids not knowing being behind and until and unless preschool is mandatory the teaching of ABC and 123s will remain an early focus of kindy. As for accessibility of programs think it also depends on your state. We are very liberal and education focused in my state so there are a lot of programs and easy access to, especially when they are already in the system. But at the same times just because English isn’t a family’s primary language doesn’t mean the family is low income. We have a large portion of kids in Liam’s school where English isn’t the primary language spoken at home but the families aren’t poor so wouldn’t have qualified for those services or would have assumed they wouldn’t or been too afraid to ask.

But my main hesitation is to when not if we will send him. Again it’s not mandatory here so kindy curriculum is going to repeat that of preschool so if he is in 3 years vs. 2 years or 1 year how will that affect him once he starts kindy. Will he get bored and act out or will he think this is a breeze like his brother and feel he can just skate but and hit a wall when they reach the point they start teaching things he doesn’t already know. The socialization I’m NOT worried about. He is with other kids all day since he was a baby. Plus he will get to play tball next spring and hockey this fall. He does have rules at the current day care he needs to learn to follow. I definitely wouldn’t send him to kindy with no preschool just trying to decide how much of it.

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In reply to: liamsmom724
Fri, 04-13-2012 - 1:16pm

And it does come down to how the schools are where you live.




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