Arrested for spilling Santa secret?!

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Registered: 01-24-2012
Arrested for spilling Santa secret?!
Mon, 11-26-2012 - 8:12pm

I don't know...this may be going a bit too far:

As a parent, I would totally be outraged at the guy but I'm not certain that he should be arrested for it. I wonder if he hadn't been drunk and couldn't be charged with "public intoxication", if they still would have arrested him.

What do you think? They need to make it a crime for being a big jerk and ruining a lot of kids' holidays!

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Registered: 05-18-2005
Wed, 11-28-2012 - 8:03am

Drunk and disorderly if he was, well, drunk and disorderly.  Otherwise it's covered by freedom of speech.  My kid understands Santa as some people's folklore and sort of a symbol of the spirit of giving.  Only a minority in our area is Christian (I think we literally have as many Hindus, Buddhists or Jews), so the issue of "spilling the beans" doesn't come up much.  I think most of the kids whose families are really into this go to parochial school, so they're not together in the schoolyard.

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Registered: 09-12-2003
Tue, 11-27-2012 - 6:41pm

um you may just be suprised but not everyone does xmas and even some who do don't do the whole Santa thing. I know a guy who told his kids from the start no Santa, no easter bunny and no tooth fairy. I have other friends who were either told by parents because they wanted credit or because parents had issues with lying. Because my mom wasnt Jewish we did sort of have a period where we believed in Santa. Our school friends were mostly catholic and while it wasn't really promoted at home back in the day it was just assumed everyone does xas, but my dad didn't grow up with a santa. His mom told him it was their secret and not to ruin it for his non Jewish friends. At DS school only about half the kids do xmas. Its still xmas overload around here but there is more of an understand that with a very diverse community not everyone celebrates it.

My kids do beleive in a Santa. My DH is not Jewish. He doesn't consider himself Catholic these days but he has strong ties to the memories of xmas as a kid so it was important. To be honest if a drunk told my kid santa was fake my kid would get the "drunk" talk. Taking public transit a lot with kids we have had the "talk" when encountering all kinds. DS has seen them talking to themselves, begging for money, passed out etc and he gets ignore them and walk on. Also my kids know not everyone believes. It doesn't mean he isnt real. they also understand santa doesn't go to everyone's house and its not because they are bad. I guess this is where growing up in a deverse area helps. While xmas is hard to escape, its not everyone's holiday.

My Jewish friends growing up were always begged NOT to tell. I let my kids believe because I think there is something magical at this age in it BUT I can't expect them not to hear things and no if he was not drunk it is not cause to arrest him. If thats the case I know plenty of parents who have spilled the beans who will get hauled off.

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Registered: 05-02-2004
Tue, 11-27-2012 - 2:33pm

The fact that he was drunk says a lot about why he was arrested.   Beyond that, if any parent has kids who still believe, they should read to them (at a very early age) Polar Express.   My kids had an autistic friend tell them Santa doesn't exist, but my boys just knew that he couldn't hear the bell any more.   (He had a hard time for a while with anything in costumes.)  

It is fine for some kids to believe and some to not believe.  Had my kids gone to school, they probably would have been told "the truth" in kinder.  But we homeschool, so it was a little later.    A little magic is life is a good thing.   If they want to keep on, once they know about Polar Express, then they can keep on believing with no problems.

So no, if he wasn't drunk, and he was shouting this, probably that comes under free speech.  If parents want their kids to continue to believe, then they need to take steps to ensure that happens.  It is not up to the general public, the classroom teacher, or classmates to ensure that.