Racist 3rd Grade Math???

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Racist 3rd Grade Math???
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Mon, 01-09-2012 - 5:05pm

An elementary school in Georgia is under fire for some questions a 3rd grade math teacher asked on homework. The questions: "Each Tree had 56 oranges. If 8 slaves pick them equally, how much would each slave pick?" And "If Frederick got 2 beatings a day, how many beatings did he get in one week?"

The school says this was an attempt to include a current social studies lesson about slavery into other subjects.

How would you feel if your child brought work home with these questions on it?

Full story here: CBS Atlanta 46 http://on.whnt.com/xmtfvL

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Tue, 01-10-2012 - 9:29am

I all for learning about our country's past, but that is a bit much!




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Tue, 01-10-2012 - 10:18am

I find it distasteful.

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Tue, 01-10-2012 - 12:32pm

The liberals here want to ban the pledge of allegance so could only IMAGINE the uproar that would cause.

Liam's math problems no longer contain names like John or Sue to show diversity all well and dandy but when kids are just learning to read and I HAVE issues figuring out these names...sometimes they go to fair but that slavery stuff that is just way to far. There are so many other appropriate ways to teach them of these less honorable things of our past. You want to cross subjects do it in reading, leave math to math don't starts throughing social studies in chances are kids won't make the connection at this age especially they are just trying to make it through the problem...but if you are going there why not through in drug deals (if Johnny gets x for each gram of crack how much does he have to sell to make x) or Nazi references (if x amount of Jews were exectuted a day how many were killed in a month and a year) the war in Iraq (if the average # of soldiers killed in a month is x how many die in a year)

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Tue, 01-10-2012 - 4:13pm
Much better examples of ways she could have linked subjects.

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Tue, 01-10-2012 - 4:14pm
You're 100% right. Those other options would not have set well w/ people either.

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Tue, 01-10-2012 - 4:17pm

I don't think that any part of history should be hidden.

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Tue, 01-10-2012 - 5:40pm

On a side note, the math word problems seem way to easy for 3rd graders.

I'm surprised that you think this. In most schools, multiplication and division are started in 3rd grade, perhaps with some introduction in late 2nd. This seemed right on track to me (although your quesions were 100% better!). From everything you've written, your son seems like a pretty atypical student, which I'm sure you must realize. I didn't exactly find the problems challenging- and the content was so disconcerting it was hard to even think about it-but they seemed like an appropriate 3rd-grade level.

Theresa

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Tue, 01-10-2012 - 7:34pm
I would have thought 2x7 would be early 3rd grade i(f not after summer review) but not 2nd semseter work.

We used Singapore math as part of our math curriculum for 1st and 2nd. If I am remembering correctly basic multiplication and division are started in the 1st grade book. For 3rd we used Sadlier Oxford and I remember teaching problems like 213x3 that year, but no carrying yet. Since it is a public school book, I figured that was standard.

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Tue, 01-10-2012 - 7:54pm
That's a main issue with our country education there is no standard. While there is an attampt to start one as of now it varies greatly by state. We do start some multiplication and division in 2nd grade but we do thinkmath and its much different then math we learned. Also as states varies cities and towns in same state differ. I have friends who's kids start basic multiciplation end of first grade in charter schools. I know many of liam word problems last year through dh for a loop. They are doing things in 2nd and 3rd grade we didmt do until jr high
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Wed, 01-11-2012 - 1:25pm
I would have thought 2x7 would be early 3rd grade i(f not after summer review) but not 2nd semseter work.
I didn't read the story closely enough to see when it was in 3rd grade, but I think at many schools learning the math facts occurs first and then they incorporate them into things like word problems. I volunteer every week in my ds9's accelerated math class and even there, it's amazing how many kids know facts but can't *use* them, if that makes sense.

We used Singapore math as part of our math curriculum for 1st and 2nd. If I am remembering correctly basic multiplication and division are started in the 1st grade book. For 3rd we used Sadlier Oxford and I remember teaching problems like 213x3 that year, but no carrying yet. Since it is a public school book, I figured that was standard.
Unfortunately, outside of the west coast, I don't think a lot of schools use Singapore math. I know it's big among homeschoolers and gifted kids and I wish our schools did more of that. Instead, we're stuck with EDM, which wants the students to think about concepts forEVER and practice with manipulatives and do all this crazy stuff... it's fine for some kids I guess, but for my kids who are good at math, it just drives them nuts. They would have done much better at Singapore. I've looked at the EDM teacher's manual a lot (I often lead small groups, so the teacher sends it home for me to see what I'll be doing) and they focus a lot on alternative explanations for struggling students, but not nearly enough for kids who want to move faster. Although I don't want to homeschool, I envy the flexibility it gives one in pacing.

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