She got a job!

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Registered: 01-07-2004
She got a job!
Thu, 08-02-2012 - 12:34am

DD22 was offered 2 teaching postions in the same hour today!  She accepted a position in a small charter school in her college town. The other job would have paid better, but the one she took has a unique philosophy, attracts the "quirky" innovative thinkers, and is project based learning.  Perfect for her!  She said the interview "felt like a hug" haha, whatever that means!  When she was discussing the 2 options with us, I told her that at 22 and no debt, this is the time to not think about the salary difference and to think about where she would be happiest.  I think she made a good choice. She'll probably live at home through Oct. to save up money for deposits and furniture, then move out.



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Registered: 12-16-2003
Fri, 08-03-2012 - 8:52pm
Great news! Congratulations to her. I tell my kids the same thing my dad gold me. Stay home and pack away what you would have spent on rent and then you will have a downpayment in no time. It worked for me!

Ramona  Mom to 2 great kids and wife to one wonderful hubby since 1990!

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Registered: 12-03-1999
Sat, 08-04-2012 - 12:02pm

<<<I'm assuming that means the same kinds of security, union backing etc as a regular public school teacher?>>> 

Not by a long shot!!!  Charter schools receive tax dollars but the sponsoring group(for-profit corp, parent organization, community organization, etc.)  must also come up with private funding.  Charter schools must adhere to the basic curricular requirements of the state but are free from many of the regulations that apply to conventional schools and the day-to-day scrutiny of school boards and government authorities.  Therefore charter schools have the “flexibility” to make decisions like -- expanding the school day without having to negotiate with teachers; the ability to fire “bad” teachers (ie anyone they don't like)  at will; tying pay and retention to test performance; lowering costs using high turnover- "churning" young teachers; and no rules to follow regarding pay.  A charter school does not have to provide a minimum teacher planning period.  There are no minimum qualifications to become a principal or a superintendent at a charter school.  Many states do not require a teacher employed by a charter school to be certified.  MOST charter schools are NOT Unionized.  In fact, a recent attempt by a Chicago charter school to unionize it's 20 teachers, resulted in the charter organization telling the teachers, "We'll close the school."  Also in Chicago, charters require the TEACHER to contribute the standard 9% toward teacher pension,  rather than making it a benefit.

The Chicago Reader newspaper has been waging war with Chicago charter schools, under the Freedom of Information Act, trying to find out how the charters spend the roughly $300 million in public funds they get each year.  Mostly, what the Reader has gotten is a bunch of letters from lawyers telling them to pound sand.  Over the course of a YEAR, they were able to get information from only 12 of the 32 charters they contacted (which is less than 1/3 of the city's 110 charters in the FIRST place).  The information these charters provided confirmed that charter school employees make significantly less than their counterparts in the regular schools.

Edited to add:  I was talking with a friend the other day, whose husband is involved in Illinois state politics.  She told me it is a SPECIFIC strategy for charter schools (and some traditional public schools in low-income districts) to fire teachers at the end of their 4th year, in order to insure that that they do not become vested in the pension, and therefore the pension money they have  "contributed" to the fund, is lost to them, but feeds the state fund.

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Registered: 12-03-1999
Sat, 08-04-2012 - 1:09pm

Here are some questions my teacher dd says she WISHED she'd known to ask her prospective employer, when she was just beginning...

What is the class and department budget?

What does the school supply?

What is the class size?

What percentage of the class is mainstreamed disabled?  English second language?  What is MY responsibility in meeting NCLB for these students?

What freedom do I have in designing cirriculum and lesson plans?

How often do lesson plans have to be submitted for review?

Is grading subjective or objective?

How is grading recorded?  When is grading recorded?

What is student retention policy?  (IE what if the student is flunking?)

Is it team teaching?  Do I have to coordinate lesson plans with other teachers-for ex: history?

How available must I be to parents?  Is there a turnaround time limit on responding to parent inquiries?

Do I have a webpage/homework hotline I must maintain?

Do I have a common planning period?

When do I work with students who are falling behind?

Are parent-teacher meetings during school hours or on my time?

What opportunities do I have to design field trips or outside learning experiences?  Whose budget does that come from--school at large, department, or my pocket?

What is the discipline policy?

How is teacher retention determined?

What percentage of the teaching staff is new?

Do I have a mentor?  Is it another teacher, or the department head?

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Registered: 10-16-1999
Sun, 08-05-2012 - 9:14am
Congrats to your daughter camom!
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Registered: 01-07-2004
Thu, 08-09-2012 - 10:57am
She's wanted to live in mid town Sac for years, so her plan is to move there. She has tentatively been looking on line at apartments, just to get a feel for rent and such. She's excited to live close to her best friend again, and be closer to her boyfriend (he's in Folsom). We're in Vacaville, so it's not too far for her to drive while she lives at home.