Ds is going to an Obama rally on Thursday

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Ds is going to an Obama rally on Thursday
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Wed, 09-12-2012 - 7:34am
I spoke too soon when I said that Obama wouldn't go to golden, co. My son is SO excited and I can't blame him. He got a ticket yesterday. I asked if they asked if he was a democrat and he said "no". He said they just wanted to know that he was going to vote. In 2004 Bush came to our town a week before the the election but they wouldn't let you in unless you were a registered republican. Boy was I angry. We had to pay for the extra police etc..and I couldn't even go to see our sitting President. Robin

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Wed, 09-12-2012 - 1:26pm
I am still shaking from a conversation I had with a neighbor. I told her about the rally and it lead to a political discussion. She believes such horrible things about Obama. Of course she believes he was not born in the US but that is the least of the vitriol she spoke. She believes he is keeping the movie Obama 2016 out of the theaters. When i said "no president has the power to do that". She said "oh, yes he does, his thugs are keeping it out of theaters." Basically She believes he lies and is a terrible person that is trying to destroy our country. She wants me to listen to her news sources to get the real story. When I told her that I didn't always agree with all Presidents but I respected all of them and thought they all try to do what they believe is best for our country, she just clicked her tongue like I was a naive idiot. I don't even know where to start. Her views scare me so much because she believes crazy stuff without even thinking if it makes sense. When I told her that all the theaters near us were showing Obama 2016 multiple times per day she didn't have any response. Wish I could say that I made her think, but I doubt it. I certainly don't agree with Romney's policies but I think he is a good man that wants the best for this country.
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Wed, 09-12-2012 - 1:38pm
People like that do not listen to common sense, do not have a world view, and frankly, are not intelligent enough for you to get into a discussion with, much less let their opinions upset you. She probably also believes that the earth was created in 6 day, man walked with the dinos, & homosexuality is either A) a lifestyle choice, or B) an infectious disease that can be "cured". Chalk it up to your education, and only speak to her about the weather from now on.
The truly scary thing tho, is that these are the people who choose the leaders of our towns and country.
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Wed, 09-12-2012 - 2:13pm
I know, but it scares me that people believe whatever they hear without thinking about whether it makes sense. We all have our prejudices but we need to accept some basic fundamental truths, one of which is that the President is not trying to destroy our country. It scares me because when someone believes a conspiracy theory you just cannot speak reason to them. Everything that cotradicts what they believe is part of the conspiracy. It would seem comical if it weren't so dangerous. (japaneses) Americans were put in camps because of crazy conspiracy theories.
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Wed, 09-12-2012 - 2:22pm
You know I really summarized the conversation we had, but there were so many claims and her only source was "they say". They say my taxes are going to go up $10,000. They say that Obama and Michelle were rich growing up and that they are lying about their middle class upbringing. They say that Obama is giving all my money to somebody else (she didn't even specify who was getting her money). Etc...
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Wed, 09-12-2012 - 3:03pm
Sounds like our neighbor lady across the street and one door down who YELLED at dh saying, "you kill babies!" because he had on a t-shirt dealing with stem cells (he works for the BMT group at the local university). Scary.
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Wed, 09-12-2012 - 4:08pm
Oy, your poor husband. Still I am not trying to justify her remark, but if you believe that a fertilized egg is a person then you believe "killing" that egg is murder. I don't happen to share her beliefs, and even if i did i certainly wouldn't call someone who disagreed with me a murderer, but it is different than believing in conspiracy theories. Still I feel badly for your husband because that was a brutal and unnecessary remark.
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Wed, 09-12-2012 - 4:17pm
I didn't mean to downplay the ugliness of your neighbors remark. I was just trying to say that her remarks (as vile as they are) are based on her own value system and not on some crazy propaganda she heard on AM radio. Now if she said that your husband was forcing women to surrender their babies to be murdered for the big government research project then she would be in the same league as my neighbor. Maybe your neighbor has some crazy conspiracy theory beliefs and from you the tone of your post I suspect that you think she does.
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Wed, 09-12-2012 - 4:21pm
And let me add that she better not take away my right or my daughter's right to use birth control or have an abortion. I can profess my beliefs just as loudly as she can if she tries to do that.
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Wed, 09-12-2012 - 4:24pm
All they use is the umbilical cord after the baby is born - no babies are harmed. But she'll never listen.
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Wed, 09-12-2012 - 4:42pm
Never mind. Now I feel like an uninformed idiot. And she doesn't believe you when you tell her that? Wow, she is even worse than my neighbor because I am almost positive my neighbor would believe me if I told her the cells were from umbilical cords.

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