Sad state of US education...

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Wed, 04-13-2011 - 1:01pm

During my research to answer a question on another board, I was SHOCKED to learn that current research, published in the Jan. 28. 2011 issue of Science, found <<<60% of US biology teachers endorsing neither evolution nor its unscientific alternatives.

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Fri, 04-15-2011 - 6:06pm

<<. This could lead to the disabling of students' abilities to develop the critical thinking skills necessary for all scientists.>>

I think that is unlikely.

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http://www.pnhp.org/news/2009/october/meet_the_new_health_.php

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQTBYQlQ7yM

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Fri, 04-15-2011 - 6:20pm

Oh my gosh, I am SO on board with you. My girls' stepmom doesn't believe in evolution (and has signed petitions saying so) and she is a biology professor (albeit at a Christian college that makes Wheaton look hedonistic), well-respected, Fulbright recipient. I just don't get it. I really don't get it. I go to church, I believe in God, and yet, not believing in evolution seems like not believing in gravity. It is really common where we live, though (you probably know this area can be a little rightwing). Dd18 was out with some friends over Christmas and they apparently all were non-believers or questioners of evolution. Dd's bf said something to the effect of, "well, I don't really know enough to know," and dd was like, "okay, hon, you know now...because when you say you don't believe in evolution, you sound like an idiot. I'll set you up with my sister the bio major and she can explain it to you better than me, but there's really no doubt to be had here."

I think what was saddest of all was this group of 18-20 year olds had never apparently had someone explain, convincingly at least, about evolution. Hello out there - didn't these kids take science in high school????

Whew... you've hit on my pet peeve, lol... as dd20 said, "I could definitely attend sm's college for free, but really, how much is a bio degree worth if the college doesn't teach evolution?"

UGH!!!

Theresa

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Fri, 04-15-2011 - 8:40pm

The way that teaching religious doctrine as science can ( not WILL) disable critical thinking skills, is that religous doctrine is all about NOT questioning.

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Fri, 04-15-2011 - 8:40pm

I'm with janetlz on this one. As a pre-med major Jason took lots of science classes in collge and none of them taught creationism as far as 'God created the world in 7 working days and that's that'. I don't have any first hand experience with Christian colleges but I really have a hard time believing the vast majority of kids graduating from college are going to come away being confused about it. I'm comfortable being a Christian and believing in a mix of evolution and creationism. I don't believe in the 'big bang theory'; I think all of creation is just too complex and amazing to believe it was just some random clash of matter. I believe that God started the ball rolling and and likely had a hand in it along the way but I also believe in evolution. Perhaps the first 'real people' were named Adam and Eve. But frankly - it's not something I lose a lot of sleep over. IMO there are just so many things that we're not going to know in this life time and I'm OK with that. And I'm OK with science teachers/professor being OK with that :smileywink:

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Sat, 04-16-2011 - 8:18am

Most of what you say I agree with, and after reading Theresa's post,

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQTBYQlQ7yM

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Mon, 04-18-2011 - 12:35pm
I'm not shocked nor do I feel our education system in the USA is aiding our youth with critical thinking skills.
Look at what some our states are passing along in legislation for text books. Scary bad in TX and GA...they are talking the same junk science here too.
My youngest majored in zoology, the study of evolution.
Truly amazing how many folks thought he wanted to work in a zoo!

When you look at the shrinkage in R&D from USA companies you wonder where the smart scientitifc folks will find labs.
Do you think Our generation should be more proactive
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Mon, 04-18-2011 - 2:42pm
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Mon, 04-18-2011 - 5:37pm

As a Christian, I believe in intelligent design.

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Mon, 04-18-2011 - 9:15pm

Teachers believing this or that doesn't bother me either.

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Tue, 04-19-2011 - 12:36am

People can believe whatever they want to, as long as it does not intrude on the rights of others

However, religious beliefs should not be taught as part of a science course.

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