Redo whole evaluation every time something new is added to IEP?!

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Redo whole evaluation every time something new is added to IEP?!
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Mon, 11-26-2012 - 1:20pm

I posted this on the "Gifted Child" board as well but figured you guys might have some experience with this as well. Smile

Ugh, I'm frustrated with our school system yet again. My youngest son has had an IEP with the school system since age 3. He's 9 now. He is what is considered "twice-exceptional" (he has hyperlexia and ADHD which is the "once exceptional" but is also gifted academically, thus "twice-exceptional". Anyway, we've had quite a few battles with the school system through the years b/c apparently they have never encountered a kid like him who has challenges and strenghts. I guess they're used to kids having an IEP either for gifted OR for special needs, but not both.

So, that's the short-version of our background. My son recently started taking piano at the beginning of the year and is pretty good at it! (Better than I ever was, LOL). His piano teacher encouraged us to have him try out for the "talented music" program through the school so we've begun that process. He passed their initial screening and is now waiting to find out when his state screening will be. Last week, out of nowhere, I get a "notice for re-evaluation" in the mail. He's not due for his 3-year eval so I was perplexed. Written in as the reason was " re-evaluation for speech, OT, and gifted/ initial music".  

I called and of course most everyone was out for the holidays but the receptionist told me that because we have a new "concern" (the talented music), that the process is "opened up" again. I'm now waiting for the case leader to call me back. This doesn't make sense to me! WHY do they need to redo the whole testing and evaulation process just because one thing MIGHT be added (IF he passes the state screening for music).

Has anyone experienced this before? Seems like a waste of resources to redo this whole process! I assume their logic is that if they can cut some of his services by showing through the new evaluation that he no longer needs them, that it will be worth it. Argh.

Lisa 

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I haven't had that experience.  My son was getting speech, and we added in OT - he just had to do the eval for OT.    I was in CA at the time.  I am in WA now, and we are up for 3 year this year, and I think it works the same way here (I had him evaluated for writing issues while here - he only had to meet with the school pyschologist.) 

In the past I had to check the boxes of the areas that I wanted him assessed in.   I would ask if you can just check the box for the music, and not have to redo everything.   If they say you have to do everything, point out that he has not met goals yet, and even thought music is not on the same time schedule it would be less wasteful if they could just redo music when they do the 3 year, even though 3 years will not have been up for it.   (Which is what they did for the OT as he started that a year after speech.) 

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It seems every year I end up going twice for IEP meetings. We have our annual and THEN something comes up and they want to test or make an amendment but I have NEVER had to redo the whole thing to add a service. Our 3 year reeval is coming up and that is the only time he has had to completely retest on everything.

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Re-evaluation could mean any number of things, Has there been a review for the year yet? How is twice exceptional even part of his IEP plan? There's the big fat assumption and stereotype that kids on IEPs are the stupid ones but the fact of the matter is that many of them are brilliant, ADHD alone can be and is a handicap for a lot of learning. We just had a meeting for my 8th grader that's on an IEP, I requested it but I didn't want a CSE meeting and all the formalities that implies, It was to go over her plans and her school year so far, Kind of a re-eval of everything in itself, Lol!

 


 


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Treddlesewingmachine: that's a good idea about asking to see if they can at least just redo certain parts of it.

Liamsmom724: - I can totally relate to having to go twice for IEP meetings. Our "record" was 3 IEP meetings in a span of a couple months back when he was 4. (He's 9 now!)

Jamblessedthree:He's not due for his yearly IEP- that's usually in May. The twice-exceptional label isn't "official" used on his IEP- it's just what I use to best describe him. I actually wasn't even aware of the term until I stumbled upon this site a couple years ago:

http://2enewsletter.com/

Although that label/term isn't written on his IEP, part of his IEP has pages devoted to the goals in regards to his special needs- social, occupational therapy, etc. and then another part will have his goals for gifted academics. 

(Hope that made sense!)

Lisa

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In our district we do not have gifted and special ed mixed together, they are totally different departments and the special ed IEP paperwork is separate from the gifted paperwork.  But evidently your disrict has it all together, so that's interesting. 

All his areas (speech, OT etc) will need to be re-evaluated every 3 years.  In our district if one new subject comes up to re-evaluate we do a document called "additional testing" and just the test scores for the new tests would be on that document.  Because the 3 year testing would go by the original evaluation (or last time 3 year was done), it would be like an amendment.  And the original date of the last evaluation would still stand--so if everything was tested in January 2011 and the another area concern came up (in your case music) in December 2012, we would just test that, add it to the eligiblity statement and then his next 3 year evaluation would still be January 2014, including the music even though that had been done less than 3 years ago.  

But district rules and state laws are different everywhere--so it may be that he was going to have his 3 year re-evaluation some time in the next year, so since they are adding the music, they are just going to test everything.  Or your district just does it that way, lol.  I do know we can't give a test and then do any retesting with that test within a year.  So if a student is tested and does not qualify, he can't be retested for at least a year, and if for some reason they were going to retest him in less than that time, they would have to use a different test.  

If he's had an IEP since he was 3, would have been re-evaluated when he was 6 and then when he's 9, so either you just had an evaluation, or it was probably coming due soon.  I don't know that any of that helps you . . . but I hope it makes sense. : )

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Funny how school districts can be so different from each other. I've had a couple people tell me that in some districts, IEP's are even used/given for gifted. 

Your explanation of the amendment makes perfect sense. That definitely sounds like what they are planning to do. What's interesting is that when he was "due" for his 3 year re-evaluation  (last year, I think?) we got something in the mail that gave us the option of skipping the tri-evaluation, essentially delaying it for 3 more years. I did not even know they could offer this! But we checked with a lawyer friend and he said there shouldn't be any issue with us agreeing to skipping it. He got to keep all his current services and placement. I just checked his current IEP and it now shows he's not due for his 3 year evaluation until 2014.

Lisa 

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Registered: 02-24-2010

Wow, we've never had anything in place to have parents agree to skip 3 year evaluations.  I can't see any benefit to it;  sometimes it results in more or less services and more or less hours.  I am guessing some parents may agree to it, being afraid that their student would lose something.  

One of my children was in the gifted program and the paperwork they gave me did say Individual education plan, but it was nowhere near as extensive as a special ed IEP.  Also they did not ever review it or update it ever again.  It's just that she was "in" the program and then would get some gifted classes in middle school, but there was never anything official after that one piece of paper.  There are "highly gifted" students in our district (which my dd was not) and I am assuming their paperwork is more detailed, they send them to a different school, give them busing, etc.  

“Clearly," said Arthur,"you're an idiot- but you're our kind of idiot. Come on.” 
― Markus ZusakThe Book Thief