While I'm at it...

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Thu, 09-20-2012 - 12:36pm

I also hate high school sports.  I know this is heresy and there are those on other boards who would jump down my throat for saying that.   DD has started a sport this year and is enjoying it--that's great.  BUT really, is there any reason that this $@#%$^ sport has to practice 3 hours/day  6 days/week?   I honestly don't think  that much practice time is necessary for anyone every day and I think it's just a macho thing.  It makes it flat out impossible for dd to continue with other activities that she's really enjoyed, some of which she's excelled at, and it intereferes with religious practice on weekends for EVERYONE.  I have to bite my tongue because she's enjoying this but I am not.   I have no idea how she will manage this in conjunction with academic demands and other commitments.   It just seems really unreasonable and the time commitment excessive for a jv beginning team.

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Registered: 12-16-2003
Thu, 10-11-2012 - 2:35pm
I never said sports only. Marching band is a bigger commitment of time than football at our schools. It is just a study showing that kids who are INVOLVED are bettter students. I mentioned sports since that is what started the thread. Trust me, my kids are./were in band, clubs, scouts, sports and more. Dd won the Outstanding Junior Art Student award in HS and believe me there were hours in the shop to achieve that, but be it art or sports, busy kids do better.

Ramona  Mom to 2 great kids and wife to one wonderful hubby since 1990!

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Registered: 12-16-2003
Thu, 10-11-2012 - 2:27pm
That is great!! My hubby worked for UIC for a while and they had a similar deal with tuition. It was a shame that they outsourced all that, but that was 22 years ago.

Ramona  Mom to 2 great kids and wife to one wonderful hubby since 1990!

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Registered: 02-21-2010
Tue, 10-09-2012 - 5:04pm

My DD tends to do better in school when she is busy. With too much time on her hands she gets lazy and things don't get done and her grades slip.

My DD plays club soccer as well as soccer in HS...she is also student council and Honor Society with a 4.1 GPA. She plays soccer year round and has either school or club practice everyday and sometimes both. We drive over an hour away for games at least twice a week. We have camps at different Universities in the summer and will be going to Tulsa over Thanksgiving and Florida after Christmas. It is her passion and as long as her grades don't suffer we are willing to let her pursue her dream of playing in college. We realize that an athletic scholarship won't get her far at the Universities that she wants to attend so she must maintain her grades.

As part of our college plan I got a job at TCU several years ago...my kids get free full tuition here and at over 100 other exchange schools. My DD is hoping that college coaches will look more closely at her knowing that she doesn't need a full ride to attend their school.

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Registered: 12-16-2003
Mon, 10-08-2012 - 11:43pm

Ramona  Mom to 2 great kids and wife to one wonderful hubby since 1990!

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Sat, 10-06-2012 - 8:23pm

Weedos -

Thanks for posting this thread, it made it to the front page of iVillage, and as a member I just wanted to respond from a POST high school POV.  Tracey (aarl) knows me on another couple forums and has asked me about college admissions for her oldest. This topic has touched a nerve with me for at least 6 years.  I have one daughter now a Junior in college, as well as a son who is a sophomore in college - both different, both were well rounded and involved in sports in high school.

Here is my POV from beyond the high school grind with two kids now in college AND serving as an adjunct professor at local community colleges and a local university:

1. IMHO sports are overrated in high school  My Dd was a varsity volleyball and softball player.  She did some regional travel teams as well. She was also a Girl Scout, on Honor society, and student council, (danced, gymnastics and played piano earlier years as well.)  Volleyball was an especially long season with tournaments on weekends, practice every day of the week, and on game days they had to watch the higher Varsity or lower level JV home teams and serve as lineman or scorekeepers for the other games.  She never got home from school until after 9PM. And there were many a night she was in tears at 1 AM trying to get all her homework done.  My son, well he just would say the dog ate the paper and go to bed, and yes, his grades suffered. Personally, I think that the number of hours allowed to be devoted to a sport should be limited further, 15 hours a week, seems like a resonable amount to me! 

2.  There are FAR LESS scholarships for sports than there are for academics - PERIOD.  Rate is now 22 times more academic scholarships than sports scholarships.   Also, sports scholarships are rated annually, where academic can be given for more than one year.  That said  3 schools offered DD some sports scholarships, and every one she applied to offered her scholastic scholarships - even those in-state public schools, which ended up being the least expensive.  After all her sports accomplishments, she decided to go to a school based upon an academic challege and not play sports.  She does work out and play IM volleyball and softball, though.

3.  Students unprepared for the rigors of college academics will have a hard time and could fail college - we personally know 4 close friends of DD's who lost their scholarships for sports because they could not keep up with academics.  Yes, some who don't play sports fail as well and sports helps one learn a lot, but can't you learn that at 15 hours a week and maybe devote a bit more time to the math and science books? 

There are so many kids i have in classes that can tell me everything about a sport, but can't write a simple research paper, or can take useful notes in class.  It has gotten worse year after year.  No, not all kids have to be "brainiacs" but we are loosing ground in this country to other countries whose students are devoting more time to study.  We need to celebrate more "brainiacs" and less sports heros.  After all, Bill Gates and Steve Jobes did not get to run major companies from a ball field.

4. I am amazed more parents have not lashed out about the huge commitment of sports, but I think for many parents it is part of their own social life, or their own unrealised dreams.  If more would stand up for limits on the sports commitments, maybe we could create more brainiacs in other fields kids could find they are passionate about?

Our kids are both off at school.  My DD, who was a good student in HS, honor society but not valedictorian, just got her 14th 4.0 in college and found passion in Economics, so much so her professor has asked her if she would like to study abroad with him next year.  She will graduate college early, in 3.5 years only staying that last half a year for the trip abroad, and will go on to law school to pursue business law. 

My son is having a lot of fun in college too, found a good fit at a school for him and he has founded clubs to support local veterans groups.  He is on track so far to graduate in 4 years in technical procurement (think engineering sales/purchasing.)

I would love to see an entire high school turn out and cheer for a math contest like they do football games, but we are admitted Geeks.  Geeks with good careers though, so we are pretty happy! 

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Sat, 10-06-2012 - 5:07am

Sports has equal importance buddy as studies.

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Thu, 10-04-2012 - 11:25am

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You should check out the Urban Dictionary on crew :smileywink:

And didn't they pitch you on the "it'll be a great sport for a college scholarship?" LOL - had to throw that in given our discussion.

Thank God all my kids are mediocre at swimming (just joking, kind of...). What is it with the 5am practices???  At our HS, JV water meets after school and Varsity meets before AND after, starting, yes, at 5:30am.

Hello.... that means a parent has to actually get up at 5am and drive you there (my girls got their licenses senior and junior year, because that's when they turned 16). UGH!!!!

You're a sweet mom to put up with this since your dd loves it. :smileyhappy:

 

 

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Registered: 12-16-2003
Wed, 10-03-2012 - 12:59pm
If you want your choice of scholarships and colleges, you still need to make your application pop to the top. I let my kids try everything. The more you try in life the more likely you are to find your passion!

Ramona  Mom to 2 great kids and wife to one wonderful hubby since 1990!

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Registered: 12-16-2003
Wed, 10-03-2012 - 12:57pm

As I said, i would not want my kdis schedules, but they loved it. We were told by more than one admittance persons that they were looking for the good student who has several things. These were to both big and little and private and public schools. They don't have to super crazy, but they do expect more than the A student, the good athlete or the music superstar. Again, not saying that a kid can't get into school, there is a lid for every pot. But, as I told my Scouts, there is a difference between goig to a school that accepted you and getting your choice of schools. They are both good, they both are going to the same eind. It just is nice to have choices.  I  did daycare for an admittance counselor for a small liberal arts school for years, and he said your kid does not have to be the start, but you better have something. 

Ramona  Mom to 2 great kids and wife to one wonderful hubby since 1990!

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Registered: 03-30-2003
Tue, 10-02-2012 - 1:35pm

When the kids were little (like elementary school) we let them do up to 2 activities.  But the stakes were lower then.  Girl Scouts at that age were 1 meeting a week.  Sometimes 1 thing on a weekend. 1 campout.  And dance was 1 hour a week, and then recital. 

When the stakes got higher (middle school) we said '1" activity.  My oldest was fine with that.  Her passion had been violin since 5th grade- violin it was.  The youngest loved dance.  Tried viola in 5th grade- just to show her sister up LOL.  Found in 6th grade that "hey I'm actually good" when she made top chair in the orchestra and made all-city.  7th grade came around and she wanted to do the community orchestra her sister had been involved in for the last few years.

  Told her it was music or dance not both.  Yes the community orchestra is only a 2 hour a week rehersal.  BUT- the one she's currently in is $400/year plus $70 for season tickets for dh and I to the concerts.  She has to reherse her music.  The rehersal venue is a half-hour away one way- and rehersal runs until 9pm on a school night.  And when you add private lessons in there to the tune of $30/week- AND dance is $250/year+$100 or so for costumes+$50 for shoes- 1 activity is plenty.

My oldest was able to get into a private school last year.  Half of tuition was covered between 2 academic scholarships, and she also has a $3000/year music scholarship.  And she got that by only doing 1 yes "1" activity.

Drives me nuts when parents say "well my kid has to do all of this stuff to get into college".  No they don't. 

Cheryl

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