Vacation car seat use......HBB for 4?

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Vacation car seat use......HBB for 4?
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Sat, 04-14-2012 - 9:31pm

We are heading overseas to visit my in laws this summer.

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Sun, 04-15-2012 - 10:59am
Since it sounds like your stuck between a rock and hard place, I'd look at it like your testing him for booster training readiness back over here. Keep the first rides as short as possible and explain the rules of booster riding every day, maybe before the first ride of the day. I'm with you and I don't like having to put a 4 yr old in a booster, but he's safer in the booster with the seat belt fitting him properly, than he would be without it. HTH some, at least.
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Tue, 04-17-2012 - 6:09pm

I am a little confussed. Whatcountry are you going to? It is not illegal to use a car seat from another country if they are visiting the US on vacation.It is only illegal if you live in the country and import a seat in from another one.You can take your seats on vacation to most countries and it's not illegal.

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Tue, 04-17-2012 - 9:56pm
I did some digging last year, and can't remember all the sites, but basically it boils down to the fact that each country has it's own laws and tests that car seats have to pass to be certified/approved. And a child needs to be in a certified seat.

Not saying that the police if you get pulled over will necessarily check that my car seat doesn't have the European certification on it....or even notice some of the differences.

But the certification is not the same. The EU does have side impact requirements, and there are requirements we have that they do not. Ie, they are allowed to use car seats that have a stabilizing post (like many of the ones in Sweden that RF to 55lbs). But I found some documentation from NTSA, and they said that that isn't allowed here, because there is no standard on car floors strength.

So basically, while each country has it's own standards, and only accepts those standards, the airlines on the other hand, allow both car seats that meet EU regulations and those that are FAA certified. (At least the ones I was looking at flying). I also contacted all the major car seat manufacturers and none of them made seats that were certified in multiple markets.

http://talk.uk-yankee.com/index.php?topic=36523.0 Here is one link that talks about the law. Basically it is a £500 fine (since we would not be using a taxi, and trips would be planned etc, we would have to have an approved seat.), plus if you are in an accident, there would be no insurance coverage. The comment at the bottom about using an unapproved seat if no other seat is available is a little mis-leading as if you read the details, it is only in some very unique situations, like a taxi.....it doesn't cover US car seats in a rental car.

So while I can legally take the seat to Europe, I can't legally use it there to restrain my child in my mother in laws car.

Ignorance is bliss...when we went 3 years ago we didn't know and had his seat. But now, unfortunately, I do.

Canada and the US may have some sort of reciprocity for visiting....I'm not sure. But I can't find any references to using an unapproved seat to meet seat belt laws here.

Please let me know if you find anything about reciprocity for vacations.

Thanks!
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Tue, 04-17-2012 - 9:57pm
Thank you keeyamah. I need a new seat for DH car anyway, so should get one that converts harness to booster, and try some trips at home first. At least I don't have to worry about him falling asleep!
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Wed, 04-18-2012 - 10:11pm

I see its misleading I don't have links but have seen this question before. I will see if I can find it, but I know in the US if some one is visiting ,they can use the seat from there country. That sounds like its worded for Americans that are living in GB not visiting. There is a big difference. I will look for links to post back here. Dawn

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Wed, 04-18-2012 - 10:55pm

I can't find anything for or against using your car seat in the UK. The link you have to me is for people from the US living in the UK not visiting. I would use your seat for this trip. Its doubtful you would get into trouble for this. I would not feel comfortable putting a 4 year old in a booster seat. For me the minimum age to start booster training is 5.

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