Anyone have a DS in Cub Scouts?

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Anyone have a DS in Cub Scouts?
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Thu, 09-11-2003 - 9:01am
Hi,

Yesterday they had the open house for Cub Scouts and we got a flyer from school. My DS wants to join so my husband took him to the open house. From what my husband says, he think it's a little too involved and a little too much for us to handle right now. They have meetings about three times a month, plus you have to do things at home. My son has a good friend who's in it and I think it would be a great idea and a good way to build his self esteem. But with him trying to get the hang of school right now and some of the problems we are having, I'm wondering if it's such a good idea. Please let me know who has any experience with this and let me know how they've been.

Thanks so much!!!

Amy
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Amy -

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Thu, 09-11-2003 - 9:36am
Our DS (7) is in cub scouts - this is his second year - he started in Tiger Cubs last year. He was in cub scouts mostly unmedicated - and he still did well and had a great time.

Cubs was (is) so good for him - his dad has become a leader and they both really enjoy it. Our DS responded well to the rules of Tigers and sometimes when he acts up, we'll ask him if that is how a cub scout is supposed to act. It seems to work - he takes it very seriously. And, when he's being extra good - we tell him that he is a good cub scout.

Cubs also has a lot of family things - like camping. We didn't own one thing for camping last year before we went - we had to buy everything - which was a big expense at first - around $600 - but once you have all your supplies, you have them and don't have to keep spending money. We've been camping about 7 times since and are about to go on our first camping trip for the year in two weeks. The first weekend, we didn't (except for my husband) know what we were doing - we brought too much stuff, etc. Now we have a routine and we really, really enjoy camping with the cubs, and just going on our own.

Cubs provides good structure and teaches our boys lots of lessons - like how to treat themselves, how to treat others, how to do different things.

I will say, though, that for us the meetings started at 6:30 or 7:00. This is a bad time for most little kids, much less our ADHD kids. There were some meetings where our DS would not sit still. Finally, we told him that we were there for him - not us. If he didn't want to be there, then we'd leave. That helped him. Now that DS is on Concerta this year - I hope it won't be that much a problem. And - our doc gave us a the lowest dose of Ritalin - we can give him a pill at about 4:30, if we want - that should last into the evening. We haven't tried this yet, but we may.

Hope this helps.


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Thu, 09-11-2003 - 4:04pm
Joiner is in scouts. They only met once a month & you do lots at home to get the bages. Actually, getting the bages was easy. We took a day on the weekend and working on a few. Actually Joiern also wanted to get him religious metal, so he had to do a lot for that. It hasn't been too hard, you just have to dedicate yourself to helping him. This was suppose dot be hubbys project, but I ended up doing most. It was fun thought. I am hoping this year they will meet more often as Joiner really didn't have a chance to get to know the boys in his group. At the meetings they also work on getting the badge requirements. It's all in the den leader & how they do things. Ours was great!
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Thu, 09-11-2003 - 6:43pm
Me, Me, . I LOVE scouts! Bernard is a Bear this year, and Alex just started as a Tiger. I'm guessing Austin would be a Wolf.

During our year from hell, Tigers was a way for us to get some POSITIVE recoginition and see some advancement. That is one of the big things from scouts - recognition and advancement. They earn beads, beltloops, pins, patches, etc, for their accomplishments. They meet once a month as a large group. We are rather lax, though, about the Den meetings which are supposed to be twice a month.

There are some activities that need to be done at home, but it is a good chance to spend some quality time with your child. Many activites are family activites - camping trips, etc. During the summer, we worked to get a lot of different requirements done. Gave us something to work towards and something to do with some of those summer days.

I wanted my kid in so bad, that I ended up being the Den Leader.

GOod luck with your decision.

karen

 


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Fri, 09-12-2003 - 9:22am
We are rather lax, though, about the Den meetings which are supposed to be twice a month.

Karen,

This was my concern. I don't want to get Austin overinvolved in anything but I know how scouts could really help him out with his self esteem and like you said recognition. The packed of information they gave us just sounded like there are all these strict rules as far as the requirements, the meetings to attend and behavior and grooming expected...almost like the military! LOL But it seems like it's something he'd really enjoy and he has a good friend whose in it. So, how to keep him caught up in school (which I feel he's already partly struggling in right now) and get him involved in something like this, I just want to keep a balance.

It's okay if you miss some meetings then? Which ones are the most important, the den mtgs or the pack mtgs? Because also the nights I work, my husband has our two year old and don't know if we'd make all the meetings....

Austin really seems excited about all the different things he will be able to do. They have their calendar and list of events and he's psyched. I don't think we'd be able to say no if we wanted to. But it seems like from what you've said that it's not like he's going to have daily homework or anything from scouts. So it should be okay.

Thanks Karen!!

Nurturedheartmom

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Fri, 09-12-2003 - 9:26am
Another question Karen,

Why do they have a full health history they need to ask on the forms for scouts? They even ask if they have a behavior problem or ADD/ADHD? Me and my dh were kinda surprised by this. Are they discriminatory?

Amy
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Fri, 09-12-2003 - 9:13pm
I'd say the Pack meetings are probably more important than the den meetings in that the Pack meetings are where a lot of the recognition comes in - when they get their awards. Some awards (beads, etc) are supposed to be given at den meetings so the kids get immediate feedback, but we usually save those for the Pack Meeting. I try - especially at the beginning - to have it so that each kid in my den gets *something* at the pack meeting.

The den meetings are a smaller group of boys. Better for bonding and working together. That is when some of the "work" is done on the achievements and may also be more fun than the Pack Meeting. Just depends - some of them can be kind of dry and some can be fun depending on what they're working on.

Our Pack does give an award for Perfect ATtendance at the end of the year, but it seems like it's only the leaders' kids that get it.

I think the idea behind the health history - that part of the application stays with the Pack and I think is for the Pack to have some kind of idea about possible problems on outings and stuff. If a kid is epileptic, you might want to know that before he has a seizure, and not after. There is no need for that in our pack, because there is ALWAYS a parent with the kid on any outings. They don't discriminate that I can tell.

When I first registered DS did not have an ADD diagnosis, so I checked No. Now he does, and I've had to fill out the same thing for day camps and such, and I don't have a problem with putting "yes". However, I am always there with him at those kinds of things. What I think is kind of ridiculous is them wanting to know when their last shots were. I'm hoping that they just want to know who they really need to keep an eye on when they're doing things like BB guns and archery with the ADHD question.

If you want to get an idea of some of the wolf requirements, you can do a search for cybercubber. That is the best site I have found. It also lists requirements for beltloops and pins. Those are strictly optional, but some are fairly easy to earn and another way to get recognition.

As far as the grooming and regulations. Some run tighter ships than others. But they should recognize that these are 7-11 year old boys - not boot camp inductees. Yes, you want the shirts tucked in, etc. And I find any encouragement that they can give towards the area of hygiene is appreciated.

Ask away. I love to talk.

Karen

 


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