Can I get a Redo?

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Registered: 07-30-2003
Can I get a Redo?
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Tue, 08-26-2003 - 5:31pm
Hi

Got a problem.

My son is 10 yrs old. He's been on Adderall since 3rd grade. He's done well. Grades and behavior improved.

Anyway, thats not the problem. When we first started all this because of failing and bad behavior, we asked the schhol to do an evaluation. They agreed, but we never heard back from them. Finally, we got him diagnosed by a psychiatrist. Now we see his regular pediatrician for meds and stuff.

Now he's in a better school(I think) and I want to see if they will do an evaluation. It seems that it would be easier to get the school to provide the extra resources if the school system said that he had a problem. He has started to have a few behavior problems at this new school. He swears that its because some boy keeps talking to him and the teacher won't do anything because she hasn't caught the other boy. Well, Erik CANNOT igore him, so he tries to deal with the situation himself and gets caught. Incidentally, instead of the old fashioned seats, this school has the square kind that that you put together like one big table. This is distracting to him, but on the other hand, I don't want him to be isolated or put by himself. On top of all this, he now has 2 teachers, one teaches half the day and the other the other half. His primary teacher is 7 mos pregnant and the other teacher is 4 weeks postpartum. So he's getting a lot of subs.

Has anyone had an evaluation by the school? Would he have to stop his meds long enough for them to do one? Also, I never received anything from any Dr to give to the school. He was just put on meds. Should I have gotten something? Has anyone else had this problem?

Sorry, I'll stop now. Thanks for any tips!

Mary


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Tue, 08-26-2003 - 5:52pm
HI. If you want you son evaluated by the school system for any learning disabilities you have to ask in writing. Send a letter to the superintendent of special education asking for a full evaluation to be done on your son. They have 60 days to complete this eval. Then they will have a meeting to go over what the results were. Then decide what to do about any deficiencies.

Now, for your sons problem. Can the teacher change his seating? Mix the groups up a bit. Tell the teacher that the seating arrangement is distracting to your son, and that he is having a problem with one of his classmates. Instead of thinking of him being isolated, think of him being extra special and being able to have a seat by him self. The worse thing he could do is stay where he is & keep getting into trouble.

Good luck & go talk to the teacher or have her call you.

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Tue, 08-26-2003 - 7:40pm
Thanks, I guess your're right.

When I write this letter, do I need to to specify a learning disability or do they generally test? And I am assuming he would have to go off the Adderall for awhile, so they can better assess the situation. You know, I have always wondered if maybe he could have a LD along with the ADHD.

Anyways, thanks for taking the time to respond.

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Tue, 08-26-2003 - 8:56pm
I had my ds tested last year through the schools. I didn't even need to write a letter. But it may all depend on how big of a town you live in. We at the time lived in a small town. With in 60 days of my request all the necessary test were done and along with the school doing the testing my ds doctor did her own kind of testing.. They both came up with the same result.. But there are times when schools and doctors will not. Use your best judgement..

By all means get the school involved in the testing...

hope this answers your question

tina

 

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Tue, 08-26-2003 - 9:09pm
No, you don't specify anything. They will test to see if there are any differences in learning and his grades & tests. Also, you don't have to take him off medication. They will know he is on the med, and that the med is doing what it can. Your concern is that there needs to be some modifications in the classroom to have a better learning environment for your son, ie. seating arrangement, organizational help, behavior plan. They may ask what your concerns are, so I would list them & have an idea what needs to be done to help correct them. But all that can be gone over at the meeting after testing. Alot of ADHD kids have a comorbid DX and most times that DX is some kind of learning disability. When my son was tested it showed a huge difference in his testing score and what his grades were. It was obvious that something was happening that needed correcting. We also had an occupational therapist test him because of his hand writing. He now goes to the resource room twice a day for help in reading and language arts, and sees an occupational therapist twice a week. We also have a behavior plan in place to help correct his behavior. Another thing we had to do this time is change his teacher after two weeks of school. His first one was not compatable with him & they clashed to no end. DS wouldn't do any work for her at all & disrupted the class dailey. So far this new teacher is wonderful.
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Tue, 08-26-2003 - 10:18pm
Thanks again! You are a wealth of info.

Thats exactly what I need to do. He has had incompatible teachers before and I've just been too timid to say anything. Unless it was just outright unfairness or injustice, I figured you get the teacher you get. But I've come to learn that not all teachers want to be bothered with the dificult students. Actually, at my sons old school, I sometimes wondered why some of them became teachers. Although, like I explained to my ds, it goes both ways.

I am going to start demanding that he be given the the help and environment that is best for him to learn. But first I am going to request an evaluation.

Thanks for everyone's help.

Mary
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Wed, 08-27-2003 - 11:10am
One reason to request in writing is so you have a paper trail, and no one can say ohhhh we never got a request. Keep a copy for yourself, and keep copies of all school correspondence, you never know when you need it. When my son was in Kindergarten he was expelled "until his appointment with his child psychiatrist" the principal said. Well that was not for another two weeks, and we were not given any other choices. I saved the note & sent a copy to the school super, who I am guessing called the princiapl. We had a meeting the next day to discuss services, which were denied a month earlier. Some school systems are very helpful, others will do anything to not give help. I'd like to think I could trust my sons school, but am not leaving it up to chance.
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Wed, 08-27-2003 - 1:16pm
Well given you have an outside DR who's diagnosed DS you should be able to get an IEP without even having him evaluated at the school. They should make accomodations as long as you can get them somthing in writing from the doctor showing the diagnosis.

I would tell the school that you have a diagnosis and want an IEP. They will probably do some academic testing just to see where he tests and go off that and the standardized testing as well, either way, if they don't do an IEP they have to do a section 504. I would ask them to do it and keep on them until they do.

Roxie

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Wed, 08-27-2003 - 1:35pm
What state do you live in? I know in PA I sent for a free book from the state outlining all of our rights for education. Every child is intitled and the schools are legally required to educate individually. If you are in PA, I can give you the website to get the book. Good luck
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Wed, 08-27-2003 - 2:45pm
No, I live in Mississippi, which is and always will be home, but we don't always have the best state resources. But that might be an idea. I'll check on that.

What is an IEP?

Thanks to everyone who responded. I feel like I at least know where to start.

Mary