Natural remedies for ADHD

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Natural remedies for ADHD
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Thu, 07-23-2009 - 11:52am

Hi there


I was wondering if any has tried Natural Factors Learning factors Smoothie Mix for their children?

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Registered: 06-10-2007
Thu, 07-23-2009 - 12:34pm

Hi, and welcome!


A child may HAVE ADHD, but it is not what they ARE. Never tell a child they ARE ADHD.

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Registered: 03-04-2009
Mon, 07-27-2009 - 1:33pm

I have long been a supporter of Fish Oil / Omega Fatty Acid supplementation for my DS... ever since reading this article:


http://www.drweil.com/drw/u/id/QAA400011


My DS was diagnosed at such an early age that I too was very hesitant about meds and held off for as long as I could. I noticed a difference when giving it to him... he seemed more calm and less compulsive. I used to sneak it into his milk. Then I found about this product:


http://www.coromega.com/coromega/html/product_omega3.html


It's more like a pudding texture and tastes great without the "fish burps." I used to put that in his milk or yogurt. Then Mr. Stubborn finally figured it out and wouldn't take it any more. So I went to our local health food store and the guy there recommended this:


http://nordicnaturals.com/en/Products/Product_Details/98/?ProdID=1438


Now DS is taking that daily. It has Vitamin E in it already. You can chew them if you want and spit out the capsule part. They taste lemony... but oily. He can swallow them. They aren't horse-pills like the adult ones.


Other people firmly believe in this diet:


http://www.feingold.org/


I don't know too much about it personally, but it is very restrictive and requires commitment from the whole family and anyone who feeds him. You almost have to treat his diet as a food allergy. The biggest and hardest change is eliminating foods with artificial dyes, especially red & blue ones. But it's possible if you do your research. DS no longer eats fruit snacks, dyed vitamins, kids yogurt (FULL of dyes), Kool-Aid, unless it's the "invisible" kind, etc...


It just takes research and lots of questions. This is a great board and full of people who know exactly what you are dealing with.


Jenn


jenn

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Mon, 07-27-2009 - 8:21pm

So, how much of that last supplement link does your DS take and what's his weight? How did you arrive at that dosage?

This is an interesting thread. It reminds me that I had a book years ago that our chiropractor gave us that said there was a lot of research to say that the link between how our bodies nerves work, ADHD and the type of fatty acids kids get (or don't get) naturally from foods in modern society was strong. I just can't remember the name etc. It went into great detail about studies and data on kids who ate the right oils and completely avoided the 'wrong' ones. The one I remember most clearly was about how kids who are going along fine can negatively effect concentration, behavior and mood just by choosing to deviate and have a small McDonald's french fry!

Considering that I've been shoving meds down my DS with very little results for years, I may have to look into this again. Perhaps in conjunction with suppliments, the meds would work.

Thanks,
Lissa

Edited to say I found the book/author:
Stop ADHD,ADD,ODD and hyperactivity... by Robert DeMaria 2003 I remember this one talking about how the central nervous system works, how oils and B vitamins and even whether your back is out of alignment can all affect concentration, mood, etc.

According to Amazon.com, he also has a much newer one about how he can help you get rid of ADD etc symptoms in 18 days. I haven't read that one and I remember only pieces of the first. I know I worry about anything that promises a complete 'fix' and the new one sounds like it does. :(

I'll have to read the new one and reread the first one and see how I feel about the info but maybe someone else already knows these works?




Edited 7/27/2009 9:32 pm ET by lissa3g
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Registered: 06-10-2007
Mon, 07-27-2009 - 8:50pm

The therapeuric dose for Omega's is the same, regardless of weight. It is 750 EPA/480DHA daily. The Nordic Naturals is a good product, for some. The lemon flavoring sets some kids off.


The daily dose would be roughly 5 pills daily.They would also need another pill of Vit e, since it is only 15 mgs per pill.

A child may HAVE ADHD, but it is not what they ARE. Never tell a child they ARE ADHD.

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Registered: 03-04-2009
Wed, 07-29-2009 - 9:56am

Currently DS takes the recommended dosage (from the manufacturer). The particular formula i have is for "Juniors" (ages 5+). DS is 6 1/2. So he gets 2 daily.. I give him one in the morning and one in the evening....breakfast & dinner.


We aren't overboard at our house. But we are all trying very hard to change our diet and eat healthier. I have noticed a difference in myself alone by trying to eliminate processed foods as much as possible. I feel more energetic nad have less headaches. But with the kids they seem just more cooperative overall. Even though DD is not ADHD it seems that when DS gets worked up... so does she.. SHE can just come down much easier than he can.


I willbe interesetd to hear what you get from the book. Though I too am VERY leary anything that makes such HUGE claims...IMHO, if these changes work sooooo well, then the child was misdiagnosed in the first place.


jenn

jenn

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Registered: 03-28-2003
Wed, 08-05-2009 - 2:23am

Wow, I"m really stunned by your statement, "If these changes work soooo well, then the child was misdiagnosed in the first place." The major flaw with a statement like that is that it undermines what many parents go through to get their children properly diagnosed and it also discredits all their hard work when it comes to helping their kids naturally.

Why do you find it so hard to believe that natural remedies can help kids with ADHD? There are many disorders/diseases/ailments that can be controlled with diet, supplements, therapies...it doesn't always have to be drug intervention. I don't mean for my post to be offensive in any way. On the contrary, I only want kids to feel better and I, personally, believe that there can be many changes seen via the natural route. :)

My son has ADHD and Asperger's and we have seen incredible changes with diet and vitamins. We are also doing other natural things that I won't get into because they are considered to be alternative and I'm not sure if anyone would be interested or if they would think it's crazy (since that's what I used to think until I got motivated to try). My main point is that this works for many people and it has helped my son a great deal. I don't judge anyone for giving their kids medication, so I hope they won't judge me for not giving my son medication. :)

Best of health,

Irene

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Registered: 03-04-2009
Thu, 08-06-2009 - 10:38am

Irene:


I believe you misunderstood my comment. I am not doubting that natural remedies work for some people. As a matter of fact, like I stated before, we use diet and vitamins as well in our home. My point was in regards to one of the books we were discussing and in that ANYTHING that makes a HUGE claim such as to CURE something like ADHD... i would be leery of. Not that you couldn't gain some insight or information from this book in ways to better deal with it or ease the symptoms. If you have ADHD you will always have it...you just learn how to handle your behaviors as you mature and therefore feel you don't need meds anymore...


I too have been through a lot in order to get my son the help he needs. Our whole family has. I do not discount anyone's efforts in order to help their child. I greatly apologize if i offended you. My comment was not meant to be offensive. But, personally, I still believe that there are children who ARE misdiagnosed... there is a difference between being hyper and having ADHD. I faced that criticism a lot when we were getting our son diagnosed. The general public doesn't understand that there is more to ADHD/ADD than being hyper.


jenn


jenn

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Registered: 03-28-2003
Thu, 08-06-2009 - 6:25pm

Thanks for your response, Jenn. I really appreciate it. :) I did misunderstand your point and I do agree that being hyper doesn't mean you have ADHD. At the same time, as you may agree with me, what matters most is that each child gets the help the need based on their set of symptoms. Sometimes, the label is important in order to get services from the school and in order to be able to quickly give people an idea of what that child has going on, in general. But, I think each child's unique set of symptoms need to be addressed in a unique way. For my son, many of his symptoms overlap and it's hard to sometimes know where the ADHD ends and the Asperger's begins! However, with the natural treatments that we have been doing, I have noticed that he is no longer tactile defensive, is making great eye contact (which was almost non-existent before), and is much more aware of other people's perspective. There is still much work to be done, but it has been a very rewarding outcome (with a lot of sweat and tears on my part!). Last year, he was unable to sit still in his seat and the school was pressuring us to give him medication, but my husband didn't let me do it and I"m glad. Now, he can sit for a long time and attend to a subject. I have some friends whose kids take the meds and they work great for them and I also have friends who have tried all kinds of meds and have not found anything that makes a significant positive difference. I really don't want to be controversial. I just want to let people know that there is a lot that can be done. We still have bad days and there are times when I wish I could just give him meds, but when I see him doing so well, it makes me feel like we're headed for something permanent...a permanent state of wellness. Sorry to go on and on! I don't even know what my point is! ;) I guess maybe I have some sort of ADD myself! ;)

Thanks again,

Irene

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Thu, 08-06-2009 - 11:51pm

The truth is, that the reason many of these "alternative" remedies work is because of placebo effects--on the parents as well as on the children. The parents so WANT to see an improvement, that they DO.

If these treatments had stood the test of rigorous scientific research, based on the standard of double-blind testing, AND been proved to be as successful or more successful than the standard medical & counseling combos we use now, people would be trumpeting the data from the rooftops, and doctors would be lining up to use the treatments. Unfortunatly, very few of these "treatments" can withstand scrutiny. When asked for proof to support their claims, proponents are unable to produce more than scanty documentation, and they fall back on claims of conspiracy against them from the medical community.

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Fri, 08-07-2009 - 10:50am

Well, you sure do have the shock factor in your posts. I'm again stunned by this response. Rather than asking me what worked for my child, you defer to the old testing excuse. It is preposterous to say that my child has made these huge gains because of placebo, since he has no idea what we give him and for what reasons. I just tell him I am giving him vitamins. That's it. Also, my husband is the biggest skeptic around and even he has noticed and acknowledged these changes. If you would like some pharmaceutical company to do a test on the benefits of natural interventions, you will be waiting a good, long time, since they wouldn't stand to benefit. So, when you read that fish oil is good for various things, do you not believe these studies? Are they all just a crock? Yes, many of the interventions I have implemented are based on sound medical science and some are not. Some are just common sense and ideas I have gotten from other parents who have also seen huge improvements. I also implement therapies as well, but I certainly won't go into that, since you're more interested in debating about the theoretical standpoint of ADHD treatment. Waiting for the medical community to help is going to take a long time....time I"m not interested in wasting. My child is getting healthier and healthier and that's the bottom line for me.

Best of luck to you and best of health to your child.

Irene

p.s. I won't be checking back here, since I have never been met with such opposition to my good will. A thumbs down emoticon to my child having significant results that are documented by school and teachers (who were unaware of anything we were doing)? That's just sad. Oh well. I'll be telling people who are interested. Feel welcomed to tear my post apart and debate as long as you like, but I will not be returning or participating...but if it makes you feel better, then by all means.

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