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Sat, 08-28-2010 - 7:18pm

My twin boys started Kindergarten four weeks ago and I have spent most days in tears ever since.

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Registered: 11-10-2003
In reply to: dabutler
Sat, 08-28-2010 - 8:23pm

Hi and welcome! What you describe sounds like it could very well be ADHD. Kids with ADHD are generally not helped by being held back. Also, having your twins in different grades would bring up more issues.

The good news is that there are effective medications to treat the symptoms of ADHD. Medications can significantly improve a child's symptoms. For my son, it was a night and day difference and has been a choice that I have never regretted. If you understand that ADHD is a medical condition just like any other, it makes the decision to medicate easier.

I would talk with your Pediatrician. You could also go through formal testing with a Neuropsychologist and see a Psychiatrist for medication. This will take longer to do. I know that the CL will probably disagree with me on this but I think that your son needs help asap. You could always switch to a Psychiatrist for medication management down the line and go through the testing if there is any doubt about the diagnosis.

Is your son in half-day or full-day? If half-day, there are short acting meds that you could start with that would last the length of his school day.

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Sat, 08-28-2010 - 9:17pm

Along with what the other poster said, you should ask the school for an evaluation. Even with a doctor diagnosis, the school will still do their own eval if he needs and IEP. Since you have no diagnosis right now, ask in writing, for the school to do an evaluation to see if he has some kind of disability that interferes with his learning. (Being in the office instead of the classroom interferes with learning!) It may be possible that they will assign him an aid to help him with high need times - transitions, lunch, recess, other classes, etc. They may also help work on a behavioral plan for your son to help him with the transitions. It can't hurt to do the evaluation, and it may uncover other areas of need that can be addressed early. If you get the diagnosis from the doctor and the medications are prescribed and helped, then you can as a team decide that he no longer needs an IEP and the help can be withdrawn.

Oh, and DON'T let anyone tell you they have never seen a kid like him before at the school, because they have. There are probably other kids just like him at the school. DON'T believe what those other people tell you about parenting or spoiling - the proof is in the pudding, and the other kids would be behaving the same way if it was the parenting. This is NOT something that is your fault in any way - it has much more to do with your son and new situations.

You may also want to go in and observe the classroom to see if you can make some suggestions that may help the teacher - if the teacher won't go along with, go look at other classrooms to see if they are a better fit. Some teachers are just not cut out to work with kids who can't sit still, have special needs or can't follow directions. That is the kind of teacher they wanted to give my ADHD son to for kinder - I ended up pulling him out and homeschooling because I knew it would drive them both nuts!

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In reply to: dabutler
Mon, 08-30-2010 - 6:59pm

I agree with the other poster.


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Mon, 08-30-2010 - 10:10pm

A pediatrician should never evaluate for, or prescribe meds for ADHD.Only if they specialize in ADHD, and have Psychiatric training. A Neuropsychologist is the one that should be doing an eval.


The schools here in TX can and do use corporal punishment, lots of schools do in the US.

A child may HAVE ADHD, but it is not what they ARE. Never tell a child they ARE ADHD.

A child may HAVE ADHD, but it is not what they ARE. Never tell a child they ARE ADHD.

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Registered: 11-10-2003
In reply to: dabutler
Tue, 08-31-2010 - 10:33am

I respectfully disagree with this. There are far too few child psychiatrists for all children with ADHD to see one for ADHD. Pediatrician's do have training in ADHD and those medications associated with it. Sometimes a specialist is warranted if the child has many co-morbids or is not responding to first line medications. Pediatricians see children for common childhood illnesses, including ADHD. If a child has an ear infection, they see a pediatrician. A child with severe, recurrent ear infections or an ear infection with hearing loss may need to see an ENT. The same is true for ADHD.

Also, many people cannot afford to see a Neuropsychologist for testing and many insurance plans don't cover it. But, ADHD children still need to be treated.

We actually did do Neuropsychological testing with my son due to possible co-morbids. However, if I only suspected ADHD, the checklists that Pediatricians use as a tool for diagnosis would have been acceptable to me because they are based on the diagnostic criteria of the DSM.

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Tue, 08-31-2010 - 4:38pm

I didn't realize it was still allowed either, but did some research and found that 20 states still allow it: http://voices.washingtonpost.com/answer-sheet/bullying/bill-to-ban-corporal-punishmen.html.

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In reply to: dabutler
Tue, 09-07-2010 - 10:47am

Thank you all for your input.

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Registered: 06-10-2007
In reply to: dabutler
Tue, 09-07-2010 - 2:55pm

I think they are giving you the run around. The school cannot diagnose anything, so why are they doing an assessment? They can test for Learning Disabilities, but that is all.


I would find out if there is an advocacy group in your area, they can help alot.

A child may HAVE ADHD, but it is not what they ARE. Never tell a child they ARE ADHD.

A child may HAVE ADHD, but it is not what they ARE. Never tell a child they ARE ADHD.

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Thu, 09-09-2010 - 8:45pm

We finally got Luke's full behavioral evaluation from the school yesterday and faxed it to the pediatrician last night.

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Thu, 09-09-2010 - 10:09pm

Glad you got something. Give the meds at least a week, if not 2 to see how they are going to work for him, then go from there. I would still try to get a referral to a Psychologist, and possibly get a Psychiatrist for meds.



A child may HAVE ADHD, but it is not what they ARE. Never tell a child they ARE ADHD.

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