New...need advice

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New...need advice
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Wed, 01-27-2010 - 2:33pm

Hi I am cathy,


I have two boys Adrian 7 (almost 8) and Julian 5 1/2. Today we went to visit Julian's pediatrician. We had filled out some form that had lots of questions about Julian. His teacher filled one too. Our pediatrician believes there is something there. The chart was very high in the area of hyperactivity. We talked briefly about medication and such but we didnt make any decision at the moment.


My DH is also very against mediations at the moment. He thinks he is too young and needs time to grow and mature.


I on the other hand I am not against it at all. I just don't want to jump into anything wihtout learning and understanding what this is all about. My MAIN concern is at school where he has gotten in trouble numerous times already. He teacher says he just can't make himself stay still to finish his work even if he tries.


Since my main concern is school I would like to put a lot of effort into this but I am CLUELESS.


Do kids with ADHD need an evaluation from the school? Would he need an IEP? Would IEP be beneficial for him? Can he even get one? Should I push towards that? Can he have an IEP without having to take medications?


I am so confused about this all. In academics he seems ok to me.

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Registered: 05-05-2003
Wed, 01-27-2010 - 3:21pm

I'm not against medication, but my policy for my own kids has been to do what I can behaviorally first before jumping into meds.

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Wed, 01-27-2010 - 3:30pm

Hi, and welcome


You really need to contact a Neuropsychologist, and have an evaluation done. Forms and checkboxes do NOT make a diagnosis, and it could be something else entirely. Testing must be done to determine what it is, and testing must also be done before meds. A Neuropsych will do a FULL Evaluation, including observations, IQ and other testing, EKG's( a MUST before meds), and more observations, even bloodwork sna dpossibly allergy testing will be ordered.


A pediatrician should not be diagnosing or prescribing meds, especially not in a 5yo, since the meds are only approved for kids over 6. I certainly would not rush into meds based on a checklist diagnosis. It sounds like you filled out a Connors, it is not accurate, can be biased and nothing should be based on it.


For an IEP, if he has ADHD, you would need an educational evaluation from the school, but first you will need a Qualified diagnosis, and a Psychological report. The school will do the educational testing, but can do nothing for ADHD.

A child may HAVE ADHD, but it is not what they ARE. Never tell a child they ARE ADHD.

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Registered: 03-25-2003
Thu, 01-28-2010 - 9:28am

To correct something from one of the other posts: Schools don't have to listen to outside evals, either. They only have to listen to their own. (and don't get me started on that, though at least MY kids school has always been decent!)

It's probably worth asking for an eval at the school, yes, whether that leads to 504 or IEP. For us, the testing the school did ruled out a number of learning disabilities that mimic ADHD. Some kids do fine without the 504/IEP, and whether or not you get it appears to be dependent on the school district (mine's been IEP or 504 his whole school life). IEP or 504 get you written-down, hopefully followed things. Stuff like movement breaks--going into the hall & doing moving around, or extra "errands" (delivering things to the principal's office or whatever--basically more moving around). My kid at that age really benefited from what they call a "Move and Sit" cushion--basically it's an air-filled triangular cushion that means he can wiggle all over the place without upsetting the chair. Kindie wasn't an issue because the teacher is smart & wise & lets ALL the kids move around bunches, but 1st grade was more about seatwork. It makes sure the teacher understands things like the kid needs to be sitting with his back against the wall in circle (not universally true, just one of the things that really worked for my kid!). Basically, YOU can't do much about his in-school behavior & refocusing him. The teachers can't do everything, either, but they're at least there if you go the non-med route.

He can absolutely have an IEP without taking meds. The school isn't allowed to force you to give him meds.

If you haven't yet, go grab a good book on ADHD--look for one of the ones that discusses non-med modifications. Even if you DO meds, those adjustments are invaluable & they've usually got stuff in there about school adjustments, too.

Megan
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Thu, 01-28-2010 - 10:34am

Hi Cathy....I'm new to all of this, too!

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Thu, 01-28-2010 - 1:29pm

Thank you all VERY much for taking your time to post some advice to me. I REALLY appreciate it. Our ped is

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Registered: 10-31-2006
Thu, 01-28-2010 - 2:00pm

I'm glad you are on the way to getting into a top notch place.

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