Big time "unstable" episode

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Big time "unstable" episode
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Mon, 05-28-2007 - 11:05pm

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Mon, 05-28-2007 - 11:20pm

Wow, my dear!

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Mon, 05-28-2007 - 11:43pm

Yeah, actually, I did stay calm.

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Tue, 05-29-2007 - 8:21am
Hi Evelyn!
I could really use your advice on this because Nick does this too when he flips out. He is only 5, but he goes into these rages too. It varies on what sets him off, but he can be pretty predictable and I can usually avoid it, however there are times where the littlest thing can set him off and kaboom there he goes. He has been better since we have him on the clonidine twice a day, this used to happen 4-5 times a week, now we are down to maybe once every 2 weeks or so. I have had to wrestle him down to the ground as he will throw everything in arms reach at me. He goes into a blind tantrum, yelling and screaming. He just loses control. He isnt normally agressive, mean, spiteful, annoying, hurtful, deliberately awful, but when he loses it, he loses it. Is this typical behavior for kids with these dx's? Nick isnt officially dx'd yet, but I have a feeling he will be. I have read that kids with AS can have these outbursts. I try to talk him out of it, distract, but when he goes over the edge, all i can do is make sure he doesnt hurt himself and I dont get hit by a flying matchbox car. Thanks!
Christine

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Tue, 05-29-2007 - 8:51am

((((((Evelyn)))))

Yes, breathing good. We had a friend of Malcolm's with us this weekend, another AS boy, and he lost it in a fight with his sister. The mom had to take the girl away because he was starting to attack her and I walked the boy into a bedroom to talk and breath. It was so interesting how easy this was to do when it was not my child. Malcolm hasn't had meltdowns or rages in such awhile now, but I do struggle to stay completely calm.

As he was breathing, the friend told me that the best thing his mom can do for him is to walk away and disengage, that is true for Malcolm, too. Once the object or person or circumstance that is setting him off is away, thought can return. Sadly, our kids are not always in a place where this is possible...

But lack of food, exhaustion, too many activities in a row without breaks, excessive heat, broken high expectations, triggers triggers triggers.

Malcolm says now "I need some FOOD or I'm gonna get RUDE!!!" But my strapping big muscular boy is a food hound...

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Sara

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Tue, 05-29-2007 - 9:26am

Oh Evelyn...my heart goes out to your entire family. Hugs to you~

Amy

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Tue, 05-29-2007 - 10:58am

OH (Evelyn)

sigh.....that's rough. I do know what you're talking about unfortunately. Sam has a throwing incident this weekend too(see my broken tv post.) Something's in the air! Our 2 year old has picked up some of Sam's habits. Add that to a typical 2 yo tantrum and it's not pretty. When we're out in public and I see typical kids misbehaving or acting inappropriate or whiny I get so peeved when the parents don't follow through. Parenting is not easy. But behavior modification with a typical kid is alot easier than a kid with neurological or psychological issues. I feel like we work our butts off with our two sometimes with great rewards but often with 2 steps forward and 1 step back and sometimes 3 steps back on a bad day. If people only knew what we went through!!! LOL

Sam doesn't know when he's getting hungry either. The meds don't help with that at all. Sometimes I have to make him eat. He can't connect his irritability to hunger. We have to remind him, "this is how you act when you are hungry...you need to eat." I'm the same way and I'm constantly telling him what my body feels like when I get hungry hoping he'll notice something going on in his own to cue him to eat.

Hoping for a calmer week ahead.....

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Tue, 05-29-2007 - 1:13pm

(((HUGS)))

I think being able to stay calm and breathe is a great accomplishment esp under the circumstances. way to go.

I hope this was an isolated incident!

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Tue, 05-29-2007 - 1:34pm

{{{Evelyn}}}

I feel for you. I could close my eyes and see chris or nic doing the same thing If I dare touch their Amy Men they lined up or moved Chris's Yu-gi-oh cards after he spent hours sorting them in specific piles, only for him to fall apart because I changed things and they have to be the same.

The only thing that has helped lately with the rages is the Risperadal that chris now takes. Nic isn't on anything (except luvox (sp?)) but that doesn't do anything for his impulsivness or rages.

I am in awe that you stayed calm. Its not easy, and I strive to do that everyday with my kids. Your thread has reminded me that its my number one goal, and I have to keep at it.

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Tue, 05-29-2007 - 1:41pm

Christine,


You might want to make a note of when these rages happen.

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Tue, 05-29-2007 - 2:27pm

Hi Evelyn,
I do understand it, but the problem is dh doesnt. I see the look in Nick's eye and I see how his little body stiffens when he is ready to go. Call it mother's intuition. I can almost feel the tension in him and the thickness in the air change! I guess I just know him that well. I immediately go on the offensive to get him out of it and am never mad afterwards. DH however doesnt pick up on that. He has a harder time staying calm and try to bring Nick down. We got the book The Explosive Child but he has yet to start reading it. He has to really work hard to stay calm and not let Nick bait him. We are a work in progress here.
Christine

PS, as far as the clonidine, it can happen anytime on it, early on, to later on during the dose. I think if Nick is mad enough, it just comes through. It is just less frequent nowadays. Thank goodness!

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