Comorbid conditions

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Comorbid conditions
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Thu, 06-19-2003 - 2:20pm
I think we are going to have to get some more help on this one for Mike. Already started to make some calls, hope they are the right ones.

The bug problem has gotten out of hand. He won't go outside, didn't want to go to the park, ride his bike, won't sleep alone in his bed, wouldn't even go into his room alone this morning. Sunday he had a dragonfly fly by him at my In-Laws father's day gathering. Had a panic attack, spent the whole day inside separated from everyone. Wouldn't come out of the playroom that happened to be furthest from teh door and insisted someone be in there with him.

Yesterday he was helping me clean the kitchen when he saw a bug. Had a total fit. Proceeded to ask if there were bugs in heaven. How he wants to go there instead. How he would find a big animal to kill him.

Then there is OCD stuff. COnstantly talking about germs and chemicals. Had a panic attack when I was cleaning with orange glow and got a little on his toy. He had touched it and thought he was going to die. Took a while to convince him some he was ok. Yesterday caught him throwing soapy water into the toilet. I often hear him playing in the water in there and just tell him it is time to stop. Found out he wasn't playing but cleaning just in case anyone stepped in it by accident. DIdn't want to help me load the dishwasher because the dishes were dirty, won't touch anything dirty (has done this with me on a large number of occasions before now. Infact he usually enjoyed it).

Then there is the sensory stuff. Chewing on his clothes and now his arms on 4 occsions making small bruises.

We finally finished the study and he started luvox yesterday. I am hoping it helps. Called a couple behavioral therapists, was told that was the way to go. I really hope so. I can't find any info on the 2 I have found and don't know how to find out if they are any good.

I am a bit worried about driving to a very buggy georgia this summer to see my brother I haven't seen in 8 years. I would like to have a handle on the bug thing efore then or it will be a very long trip. I haven't really told them that much about the kids. Although I adore my brother, we only talk a few times a year and it hasn't come up. Needless to say it should be interesting. Think i have some fessing up to do before we go.

Renee

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Thu, 06-19-2003 - 10:19pm
Bare with me, I haven't had my pot of coffee yet today, LOL. First, what are the names of the BTSs that were reffered to you. Since their obviously here in CA I might know something about them. Second, if you get some good sollutions to this bug dellima don't be stingy, share, share, share. Eva is driving me nuts with her constant fear of anything that creeps, crawls, goes bzzzzz, or spins a web. It's gotten to the point were she won't leave the house b/c she has personally seen a Daddy Longlegs at every entrance. Sigh. So far nothing has worked with her. We've tried everything from specified education, petting, sensory therapy, to peer pressure (it good to have too many kids sometimes). If you find something PLEASE (I add that with a pleading whine) be my hero and share.

Candes

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Candes  
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Fri, 06-20-2003 - 1:56am
We are seeing Dr. David Keenan (psychologist) Saturday Morning (YEAH!!!!) He sounds absolutely wonderful on the phone. He wants to meet Mike and me first and get to know him a bit then decide what would be the best approach.

I was really starting to think something was seriously wrong with the kid. He is making me nuts. He used to enjoy being helpful but won't do anything but spin on the floor and fly his little toys in certain places. He will only go in about 2 rooms of the house alone. Won't go in a number of rooms in the house (including the playroom) at all for fear of bugs. This is a high energy sensory kid who needs to get lots of physical exercise so by now he is making us all nuts!!!! He is usually outside, at the park or swimming for a couple hours a day.

The kid is getting pee all over the bathroom because he is looking at the corners of the bathroom while he pees!!!! Then he is throwing soapy water on the toilet to get rid of the germs. If I have to clean that bathroom again I am going to scream.

Renee

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Fri, 06-20-2003 - 3:54am
Renee, I'll call The DEDUC office at Balboa in the morning and see what they have to say about Dr. Keenan. The name is familiar, but I can't say from where. For all I know it could be the last name of someone I had swim class with in college. LOL.

Anyway, about the bugs. If Mike's got something terribly wrong with him then I think Eva probably does too. Tonight we had quite a time with her! We were putting the little ones to bed and dgm made the fatal mistake of saying "Don't let the bedbugs bite". Suddenly Eva was clining to Jade screaming that the bedbugs were gonna eat her all up. Can you sy China Syndrome? LOL, I have to laugh at it now. If I don't I'll give off another loud scream. Jade turned sheet white and atarted flailing, trying to pry her sister off of her. Dgm immediately started treating them like they were getting into a fist-de-cuffs and tried to pry them apart. I had to pry dgm off the girls. Thankfully, Scotty looks intothe room to see what the comotion was and yells "China Syndrome!" down the hall to DH. Scotty's dad was visiting so we had two big grown men to help seperate everyone.

After sending dgm to her room with a firm "Butt out!", we were able to calm Eva down. Jade actually calmed down on her own halfway through the commotion. She said she realised that Eva was scared and just needed her big sister to hug her and make her feel safe. (This is MY kid????? I think I'll keep this alien body snatcher, LOL) It was all over with very quickly, it wasn't like the big blow up last month.

Anyway, we convinced Eva that "Don't let the bedbugs bite" is just an expression and that there weren't really bugs in her bed. I was very proud of both DH and Jade for not bringing up things like dustmites, especially since at one point DH opened his mouth like he was going to say it but then snapped it shut. So we got her to crawl back in bed, only to have her suddenly scaling DH and coming to rest on his shoulders, with arms wrapped firmly around his face, and her body draped over his head. She was sheet white and shaking, waaaay to scared to make a peep. I thought for sure DH was gonna blow a gasket. But instead, he turned towards me and said "Do you like my hat? It's the latest rage in Paris." Then Eva screamed and let go of her dad. Scotty Sr. caught her as she fell, so she wasn't hurt. She started crying out loud about hurting her Daddy and showed me her hand, which had blood on it. I looked up at DH and saw two deep grooves in his jaw where she had holding onto him (Note to self: little nails are very sharp). He wiped some of the blood off on the back of his hand and said "It's okay, Princess. Now I'll have matching scars from my two favorite Aspies babies." Where upon Jade blinked twice before the light finally came on and she turned bright red and sunk all the way beneith the covers. (She had put a couple of grooves on his face a few years ago durning what turned out to be her last major meltdown......well, at least one that wasn't spurred by protesting sisters). Sigh, who knows, maybe the drawing of blood will dothe trick for Eva like it did for Jade.

Oh, but you know what had caused her to scale her dad in the first place? Cookie crumbs! Dgm doen't see why I make such a big deal out of eating in the bedrooms. I guess earlier today dgm had let Eva take her snack in her room. Sigh....again.

Okay, I wasn't gonna let it get this long.......oh who am I kidding, I can't write a 'brief' post if my life depended on it. LOL

Candes

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Candes  
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Fri, 06-20-2003 - 8:25pm
About Dr Keenan. I called the DEDUC center like I said and he's not registered with our data base (but then, it's not like everyone is). But one of the ESs said she works with a few people who see him. She, of course, wasn't going to go into details (that would be unethical) but she said she likes what she's seen with him. So I guess that a big thumbs up on Dr Keenan. But not knowing the man personally or having more information to go on I can't give a personal rec. But I know Kathy(the ES) pretty well and she's kinda picky about spychs.

Candes

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Candes  
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Tue, 06-24-2003 - 4:26pm
Thanks for the info.

We saw him saturday and I did like him. Well I will say this, for the first night in a month, mike slept in is own bed adn not in the protection of little bro. dave's bed.

Couple of things he gave us to do.

1. relaxation techniques to practice at varying times through the day to be used when panic is about to set in. use self talk strategies to.

2. Stop "reassuring" him. Ya know the typical parent thing. Don't check for bugs for him. DOn't go through big cleanings or what not to get rid of the bugs. By doing that we are telling him that he is right and there is something to be afraid of.

3. Make a plan on what to do when we see a bug. (leave it alone, kill with a fly swatter, what ever) Get him to take as much responsibility in the bugs as possible. Be there for support and do what he can't with him with me. Keep pushing him further until he is taking care of them on his own.

4. Pick a hero to be and pretend to be him when taking care of the bugs. Mike picked Harry Potter (hehe).

So far so good. The full blown panic attacks are down. Still has a way to go. We go back to the psych in 3 weeks. Mike really loved him and Mike hates doctors. He wants to go back which is a big thing for him. THe guy had him laughing and talking wasily with him. Mike rarely talks to any new authority figure, particularly a man. So I was impressed. I want to get him to see Cait for social skills as well. He was even working on some of Mike's social needs with us. Mostly though talking with me to see what the exact problem was and giving us some specific things to work on at home. Says he usually likes to do social skills in groups, but has no groups right now.

Renee

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