never thought finding a psychologist

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Wed, 04-23-2003 - 11:57am
would be so darn frustrating. Trying to get Caiti some social skills help with a psychologist and I am going through my insurance. Well what info I can get on the psyches covered are for substance abuse, mood disorders, child abuse, depression, etc. Every one of the many who specialize in anything similar to aspergers seems to be not on my insurance. AAARGH.

I have been online for over an hour looking for info on the covered psychologists trying to find 1 who may be a good choice and I can't. Just needed to vent my frustration.

Renee

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Wed, 04-23-2003 - 12:13pm
When we first started taking Tim to a psychologist, He was

only labeled as ADD back then but we knew it was more than add.

They listed him under "Emotional Disorders" for the insurance to cover it.

It was later when we got the PDD disorder and they told me Autism

is listed by itself and was able to go under that. I hope they can do this for you too

or find a way to make it possible to have it covered.
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Wed, 04-23-2003 - 12:29pm
I can only say best of luck to ya! lol Military insurance, which is what we have, is pretty much lacking for what we need where we are stationed!!!! Within a 200 mile radius, there was only ONE psych that was willing to take us - she dx'd Tristan ADHD, PDD-NOS, and possible bipolar, put him on medication right away for the ADHD(about a year ago) and has since been telling us that in order to learn how to "handle" him and get the emotinal treatment we need as a family, we need to visit a psychotherapist - SHE won't do that part!!!

Now someone please explain to me why I am paying this woman to see Tristan for *maybe* 15mins every 3months? Is this the norm (a psychologist telling us to go someplace else for the actual non-medicated treatment) or is this lady a true whacko like we seriously feel she is?! LOL


Renee, I can truly feel for you. It seems that so many people always talk about needed to get the best for all children, yet so many people don't want to DEAL with those children. It's very frustrating and can be very disheartening at times. Keep your chin up, and don't give up your search. You WILL find someone worthwhile....eventually! ;) As for us, we are trying to transfer to a different base, somewhere we there are actually docs who give a hoot about our situation!

~Carrie

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Wed, 04-23-2003 - 5:44pm
What branch are you guys with Carrie? I was stationed at Camp Pendleton for 5 yrs and found our champus otps to be very satisfactory. But we rarely had to use them because they had such a huge sec8 dep at Balboa. We got tons of services and people to choose from.

As for why you would have seperate drs, there really is a good reason. I work as a behavioral specialist of ADD/HD. I don't do the dxing just the mental, non-med, therapy. I have found that most clinitcians are too full of themselves AND looking at people as broken machines to be able to help. A BST isn't weighed down with finding out what's wrong and can concentrate on helping the family find the answers. It's kind of like orthopedics, there are several different specialties involved in propper treatment. One person dx's the problem, another does the surgeries, another makes and maintains the braces and other prostetics/appliances, and another does the PT. The BST would be the PT and the PsychoTherapist would be the appliance specialist. But unlike orthopedics, in Psyc the specialists usually don't work together very well as a team.

Candes

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Wed, 04-23-2003 - 5:49pm
Hey Rene, what ins co are you guys with? We have BS/BC and we have to apply for permission to do just about ANYTHING. It makes me want to scream sometimes. LOL, okay, so I actually DO scream on occation, just get get all the frustration out. Give it a try, works great for me.......here have some chocolate too.

Candes

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Wed, 04-23-2003 - 8:11pm
Well, I don't know if I can be of any help but I have found some providers through a autism support group where I live. Do you know of any groups that you can contact for referral information? I can't remember if you've mentioned the state you live in but Florida has a organization called Center for Autistic Related Disorders that has a wealth of information and names of people who work with autistic children. Start with some of the national groups and work your way down to the local areas. Someone somewhere may know somebody. Hope this helps (if you haven't already done this)

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Wed, 04-23-2003 - 8:25pm
Candes ~ Thank you for your explanation of things - you make so much more sense than our psych does!! LOL (And I think you are soooooooooooooo right about being so full of themselves - we were actually able to read a report she made about "Tristan" where all she did was talk about us as parents....she really seems to think we are the root of all his problems or something, doesn't like us at all!! LOL) We are going to give psychotherapy a shot, mainly because Tristan is beginning t get back into his meltdown episodes, and this lady isn't helping us even in the slightest ("I can't really help with that").

Militay --- We are (dh is) currently Active Duty Navy on shoreduty in Upstate NY. There is technically NO MILITARY BASE here, just a teaching site, therefore there is no medical facility for dependents. We have to go out into town. Wouldn't be a problem, except nobody here wants to deal with the insurance, and also the insurance can't keep the kids and myself living in the same place or even within the same proper coverage! (can't you tell how much I love all this stuff?!?!???) I only PRAY that we were still with champus......but that went by the wayside years ago. I was lucky enough to deliver both children while it was still around. But now, we are with an HMO (ugh) which is TriCare (that's the military side of the company. The parent company is called Sierra Medical Health Systems, or something like that). Simply put......it's an H-M-O. Need I say more???

We can't wait to get out of this place and back to a base where we know the area and know who/what takes our insurance. As it stands right now, within the next year or so, the hostpital that services this city with stop taking military insurance, leaving us Navy folk going a minimum of 45mins to the closest hospital that will accept. Lovely, huh.

~Carrie

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Thu, 04-24-2003 - 12:59pm
Aetna and cigna behavioral health (HMO basically). It is not that they wont cover the services. Said they will cover for her to go for an initial appointment and have the psychologist determine the need for more visits. The problem is they will only cover in network psychologists, no out of network. There are no less that 5 psychologists in our area that I know specially or work extensively with ASD kids, but not a one is on our plan. Rather it is all psyches who work with substance abuse, emotional disturbed, etc. I am not confident they will be able to help Cait with her social skills difficulties when they quite possibly don't have a good grasp of the kind of social skills problems that ASD kids have.

Frustrating.

You want to move down this way? hehe.

Renee

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Thu, 04-24-2003 - 11:36pm
SURE!!! :) I'd love to move back down there. Unfortunatly, with 6 kids we simply can't afford to continue living in the state of California. DH once said "Why not? We live comfortably." Then I pointed out that all 6 kids are girls. That not only means 6 college careers to suport but 6 weddings as well. After he heard Jade talking about her idea of the perfect wedding (would cost in the neighberhood of $100,000) he quickly decided that TX was looking reaaaaaaal good. LOL, he even said "Sounds good, ya'll."

Btw, I hate HMOs. (yuck, pewwy, ick) We have a PPO and other than the constant 'asking permission' to do this and that, we are pretty happy with it. We can see anyone we want. We don't even have to have referals. Would it be possible for you guys to switch to a PPO?

Candes

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Thu, 04-24-2003 - 11:59pm
Oh YEAH, sounds good. Open enrollment isn't until December for dental, I hope it is the next contract year for medical (June). We may be swtiching dental as well because ours covers ziltch for orthodontics and we just found out Cait needs about $3500 in work done there too. I will have hubby ask. The 1 PPO available is kind of a pain in the tush and much more pricey. But speaking to you of affording a big family in California is like singing to the choir.

Renee

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