New district, new laws?

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Registered: 02-06-2009
New district, new laws?
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Fri, 02-26-2010 - 1:28am

I posted on the Special Ed board, but you guys are too good not to post here too. I have a son with AS, he's 9 and we have been homeschooling him for almost 2 years because of the horrible experiences we had with the last school district. He's doing wonderfully now.

Anyways, this is about my daughter who is 3. We don't want her in preschool YET, but we want her to continue with services. This is what I wrote on the other board:

She was evaluated by the school district when she turned 3. She qualified for Speech Therapy, Physical Therapy, Occupational Therapy and for cognitive, which means the Preschool. They put on the IEP that she needs preschool, but parents declined, and so we brought her in for therapies only. This works for us.

Then we moved. This new district says they can't do that. They will give her what she needs and nothing less. She will go to preschool, not even part time since I asked, or she gets nothing. I asked if they could do what the last district did, and they said they won't make that kind of deal. They say it's "illegal". The man I spoke to said they were just taken to court by a student's parents because the parents thought the student was receiving too many services, and the district won.

The closest preschool that has openings are 8 miles away in another city, yet in the same district. It's a 20 minute drive, so I don't know how long on the bus.

Help? Are they being fair? Is there something that I'm missing?
Thanks.

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Fri, 02-26-2010 - 8:19am

I know that when my son attended a community preschool (not school district sponsored) and his team decided it was in his best interest to receive services at home because the school setting was too distracting for him.


Eventually he needed to switch to a specialized classroom and then he did get all of

                                

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Fri, 02-26-2010 - 8:20am
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Fri, 02-26-2010 - 11:37am
Oh wow, services AT HOME? That's amazing. I was just talking about bringing her in for speech, physical and occupational therapy... :)
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Fri, 02-26-2010 - 12:48pm

When my daughter was three, we were told that she would receive NO services unless we enrolled her in preschool and she didn't qualify for public preschool.

So I ended up paying $500 per month for private preschool plus private bussing so my 3yo could get "free" public services.

Having said that, however, they did an EXCELLENT job once services stated and she really blossomed. So to me it was worth the money (I had it back then).

-Paula

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Fri, 02-26-2010 - 12:55pm

Oh wow Paula, that's a lot of money. I'm so glad she blossomed. :)

Maybe I'm confusing, I do that a lot. My 3 year old DOES qualify for FREE preschool and therapies. They'll even bus her. We don't want her in the preschool yet, only therapies. Our old district let me take her in for speech, physical, and occupational therapy and NOT attend the preschool. But this district says she goes to preschool (which includes therapies) or she gets nothing.

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Fri, 02-26-2010 - 2:13pm

We are on the same page: The district said she goes to preschool or she gets nothing. Except in our case, the preschool wasn't free. I wanted her just to get therapies at daycare and home, which was the plan my my son had gotten in the SAME district before the age of three. The district refused. They said that after 3 years of age the kids have to get the services in a *school* and not home or daycare. Before age three services are covered by the county. After three they go to the district and a different set of rules.

They wanted her in the school so she could learn peer interaction, and be reinforced by peers. You can't learn that at home. I didn't try to fight it at the time because I saw their point and I wanted the services rather than be caught up in legal wrangling for years.

I guess you could try and fight it to get the services at home but I figure you probably won't win (I could be wrong, of course), so your choice is basically the same as mine: All or nothing (but without the expense).

Consider this though: You can sign her up for the school and if it works out badly, you can take her out (and if it works out well: great!) However, if you don't sign her up and then change your mind, the chances are high that there will be no place available for her, and you will have to jump through hoops to make one.

-Paula

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-Paula

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Fri, 02-26-2010 - 4:35pm

I completely understand not having therapists from the district coming to your HOME, that's what birth to three does, but that's not even what I want. I simply want what they can offer and do offer at the school closest to us.

We have many many reasons for her not to go to preschool, although we will consider it when she's 4, she'll have two years of it before K (fall birthday), not now. That's true about signing her up and just taking her out if we want. Except we don't want our 3 year old who can't explain herself or stick up for herself on the bus for 4o mins in the morning, 40 mins in the afternoon, on a highway, to a preschool that's bigger than all the others, 16 children and 2 adults, when I could very easily walk 10 mins for her therapies at the school there.

They told me this: if she scored well academically on the tests, yet still needs speech, OT, and PT, then they WOULD allow us to walk to the closest school for just those service, but because she does qualify, she HAS to have it ALL or nothing at all. I don't get it.

I think I just made sense but I have to run!




Edited 2/26/2010 5:41 pm ET by mommaforever
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Fri, 02-26-2010 - 9:53pm

We had the same thing with our children. After the age of 3, they could only receive services if they were attending a preschool within the district. I've never heard of any district paying for services for a child that was "school age" but not attending school.

Prior to age 3, it's considered Early Intervention, which the state, typically, funds separately from the school districts. But once they turn 3, they have to be enrolled in school because that's how the districts get paid. A school district is allotted "X" amount of dollars for each student (they actually get paid more for those with IEPs), if a child isn't a student, then they won't get paid for that child.

Sorry, I'm trying to type this with a raging headache, so my response may not make much sense.

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Sat, 02-27-2010 - 12:48am

I see, yes. I completely get the birth to three and school district as being completely different.

But the thing is that they CAN and HAVE done this. When she turned 3 several months ago she got an IEP and we went in for those services, Speech, OT and PT, and of course they got payed. She did this for four months after turning 3.

Some kids simply qualify for at least one therapy, say speech- and they just go in for that. My daughter had speech with another little boy who only qualified for speech. The district got payed. And yes they got payed for my daughter going too.

It's THIS district who is saying no.

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Sat, 02-27-2010 - 4:12am
It really sounds like the old district was bending the rules a bit and the new district is really more in line with what is the norm. I think as Paula said, You have to choose between all or nothing at all. You have your reasons for not wanting her to attend preschool yet, which is fine,

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