Somnambulistic stimming?

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Somnambulistic stimming?
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Tue, 10-07-2003 - 11:03pm


A little while ago, I heard Peter through the monitor saying “No No No”. I went up to his room. He was sitting up in bed staring, I sat next to him and tucked him in, he appeared to settle down, and I rubbed his back, then he stiffened, and I looked at him. He was staring murderously into the corner at something (the clock?). He wouldn’t answer me when I asked what was wrong, then he got out of bed and crawled into the opposite corner, growling all the way, and proceeded to beat his legs with his fists as hard as possible. I couldn’t get him to look at me. I couldn’t get him to speak. He just kept growling. DH came in and Peter buried his head in my lap but was still completely stiff.

DH picked him up and put him back into bed. To my surprise he got in like a lamb. I heard him snore a few seconds later.

Now, this is the worst I have seen him in a long time. The new school is obviously taking it’s toll.

My big question is: Was he awake or sleeping? He seemed very disconnected and his eyes looked strange through the whole experience. I know people can do odd things while sleeping and I know there is a man who claims to have been asleep when he killed his wife, but…, well I am confused.

Help.

-Paula

-Paula

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Wed, 10-08-2003 - 3:34am

Paula, it sounds like there could be two basic things going on here, but you won't have an idea until sometime tomorrow.

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Wed, 10-08-2003 - 7:58am
Thanks Candes,

He says he had a bad dream and he remembers me coming into his room, so I guess it was just that. I wrote a note to the school to find out if something happened yesterday. Peter was upset coming off the bus and had a major tantrum a couple hours later -he is a 'delayed response' kind of kid so I was thinking whatever triggered the tantrum, probably happened in school.

At the time, however, I actually thought "seisure?" to myself. He had a suspected seisure at daycare early this year. He has had 3 EEGs -one of them the 24 hr one (oh that was *so* fun -NOT), and they turned up zip. We even had the dog sleep in his room for a few months to see if he would react to any seisure activity -dgm had seen a show on TV about seisure dogs(!), -only one incident of dog barking, boy sleeping soundly. I guess I will call the neurologist today, even though I don't like him much, and see what he says.



Thanks for the cookies and understanding,

-Paula

-Paula

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Wed, 10-08-2003 - 8:49am
Paula -- That sounds a lot like what my youngest son, Greg (age 7) does. He's not officially on the spectrum, but he's got some "shadow" AS traits. Anyway, for the past year or so, he's had both night terrors and sleepwalking episodes. Sometimes he actually gets out of bed and wanders around (we usually catch him, walk him to the bathroom, help him "aim and shoot" and get him back into bed). Other times, he'll sit up in bed, calling out or crying, but not be aware of us if we try to get through to him. The best thing to do in those cases is, again, to walk him out of the room and back again, then he goes back to real sleep like a lamb.

Our ped told us that episodes like this happen when he goes to sleep but doesn't get deep enough into REM sleep, so his mind is in a dream-state, but his body isn't---hence the moving and talking. Greg never remembers these incidents the next day. We've just gotten used to them. We're up two or three times a night with the baby, once more isn't that big of a deal. But it was quite scary and freaky when it first started happening.

Just a note. My mother tells me that I was also a sleep walker and prone to night terrors as a child, and they can be hereditary. Did either you or DH go through this in your childhood?

Elizabeth

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Wed, 10-08-2003 - 9:34am
Thanks Elizabeth,

I don't there is a history in the family, I will double-check with DH. I know I had a lot of night-waking episodes and panic as a child, but that was related to a family tragedy, and I'm pretty sure they would not have occurred otherwise.

I think you are right about the way to deal with it. DH just picked him up and he went limp. I had probably been making him worse by talking to him (and panicking!)

The more I think about it, the more I suspect something happened in school and that is what he was reacting to. He went through a phase of night terrors a few years ago, after we moved. They were nothing like last night, but then again he was little more than a baby at the time.

I'll keep on it and keep you posted.

I'm so glad this board is here, I don't know what I'd do for support at at 11pm otherwise.

-Paula

-Paula

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Fri, 10-10-2003 - 7:55am
I just wanted to update this post and close out the thread:

I spoke to the teacher the next day. He hadn't noticed anything unusual taking place on the day it happened. Peter had seemed fine on that day, but he spoke to Peter the following day and P. told him that another child had been bothering him. I think it happened on the bus home; I had noticed a wierd vibe thereon when I took him off, and P was out-of-sorts for most of that evening.

I am monitoring the situation closely, but it looks like it was just(!) a night terror brought on by this child. He has slept OK the past two nights.

Thanks to you all for your help and support.

-Paula

-Paula

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