Tomatis method on the Today show

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Tomatis method on the Today show
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Thu, 05-08-2003 - 12:13pm
I thought this was interesting and had never heard of this. The clip is 8 1/2 minutes long, but interesting.

http://www.msnbc.com/modules/exports/ct_email.asp?/news/909205.asp

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Thu, 05-08-2003 - 1:45pm
You know, I'm kind of an advocate for Sydney Greenspan's "floortime" approach, which is totally interactive and really pushes kids to respond and relate to others. I can't help but wonder about an approach that sort of encourages kids to live in their own little world of Mozart... I know that my son is constantly playing his own little tapes inside his head, and it takes a major effort to keep him focussed OUT...
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Thu, 05-08-2003 - 2:50pm
I haven't heard of Sydney Greenspan's approach either. It sounds interesting as well. Is this something you have tried? I will see what I can find on the internet to learn more about that too. If you know of any sites, I'd appreciate you passing it along to me! Thanks!
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Thu, 05-08-2003 - 5:08pm
Ya know, I HAD heard something about this a while back, but I wasn't given to much information at the time. It had come across my desk at the foundation in an application for research funding. I don't remember too much about what was in the initial report, except that the applicant didn't show enough information to warrent my recomendation for funding. LOL, right now my partner, Scott, is nodding his head saying "Yeah, that was the guy you told to go back and rewrite his app because it didn't make any sense."

I'm sure there is something to listening therapy, but I don't think it's one of those things that would end up being a 'magic pill' kind of therapy. I think it would need to be done in conjunction with other kinds.

Also, I don't believe that there is an underdevelopement of the inner ear in ALL ASDs. I don't believe that this is the reason for kids doing things like not responding to their names. I know in my own kid's cases it comes down to their inablity to tell whether you are talking TO them or ABOUT them. With Ayla and Jade we have been able to help them understand the differences with agressive therapies and tactics. Eva is still learning. But all three of them have great (even better than normal ) hearing.

My kids all do better with a given task if there is music on, especially classical or other instrumental. But I think that's more because the tempo and rhythm help them pace themselves and the mathmatical quallity to music is somewhat soothing. Ayla says it's like having an anchor that moves with you and keeps you focussed.

Just my copper pennies,

Candes

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Thu, 05-08-2003 - 5:35pm
Please don't take this the wrong way but when you state that you, "wonder about an approach that sort of encourages kids to live in their own little world of Mozart," it belies the message that you are somewhat familar with the method, program or its objectives. My son is beginning theraputic listening through a private occupational therapist here and I can personally say that this does not encourage anyone to isolate themselves from the rest of the world. The child interacts with others while wearing weighted headphones and doing activities. It is not the child sitting alone and listening to music. The music is also modulated to help develop/mature the child's auditory processing "system." There is much more to it than this but we are just starting with it and I am learning about it as well. If anyone is interested I can keep you updated on our progress. I am just concerned that there will be those who dismiss it out of hand with simple comments as the one above. When doing research, or looking into different therapies, it is always wise to ask around and see what other's think but make sure that they are talking from experience and not off-the-cuff comments. Also, I always advocate going to the "horse's mouth," so to speak.

JMHO

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Thu, 05-08-2003 - 10:11pm
so explain more fully, please. Your child wears weighted headphones while listening specifically to Mozart (and/or similar music) and interacts with others non-verbally? And the purpose is to develop the inner ear and provide an internalized order, based on the very ordered sounds of classical music? Is this also done in conjunction with language therapy?
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Fri, 05-09-2003 - 12:15am
I am new to this and would do no justice to the program by trying to explain it. Please check out their website for answers to your questions

http://www.tomatis.com/English/index.htm

The main reason I chose this therapy was that the "alternative therapy" that was posed to our family, at the time, was medication. My son, now six, was five and in my opinion far too young for medication. He has attention issues, self-regulation problems and sensory issues (among other things). This therapy is done in conjunction with other therapies. It is not a cure all but patients here have shown remarkable progress, including the areas my son needs help in. If you are interested to know how we progress, I am more than willing to give updates as we begin the therapy.

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Fri, 05-09-2003 - 1:44am
Well, as you can probably guess, I, for one, am highly curious about any results you might see. Please keep us posted! I hope it helps your child!
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Fri, 05-09-2003 - 11:52am
Best of luck with the therapy! I did look at the site, and see it's listed among alternatives on the Autism Society site...

It's just so frsutrating, because there's so little real research done on ANY of the alternatives... So much is in the realm of anecdotes or "of the 12 people studied, 8 improved." OK, 12 people... sounds like good odds, but how did they choose the people? what other therapies were going on at the same time? what were the peoples' diagnoses??

It does sound interesting, and I do agree -- meds for a 6 year old sounds unreasonable!

All the best,

Lisa