Vaccinations?

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Vaccinations?
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Sun, 07-25-2010 - 5:41pm

I am piggy backing on my other post about the antidepressants I was on with that child.

Here is the other thing. I have 5 children. The first 4 were fully vaccinated. My dh and I never had these vaccinations as they were not even on the market when we were born. Most adults have never had the vaccinations expected of children today.

Anyway, 1st child had birth trauma. Then had ADHD and PDD-NOS. I always figured it was the birth trauma. Of course, he was speech delayed.

2nd child, speech delayed and had auditory processing disorder.

3rd speech delayed more than ay of the others. Has PDD-NOS that can look like classic autism at times, but often you cannot tell. It depends on if he is having a neltdown or not. He had NO pre-autism signs. He was way ahead in every way. Physically, he slowed down a lot after the MMR. He stopped gaining weight and might have lost some. He had no emotional or behavioral signs of ASD yet though. Then at 2 yrs old, he got a flu shot. He went down hill very quickly after. He started to have screaming meltdowns. He would just scream and scream and throw things and throw things off shelves. It was awful. He went from the happiest little boy ever, to miserable and unpredictable. He also started refusing to speak when he did not want to, like when he had anxiety and such.

4th child, mostly vaccinated. Speech delayed, no other problems. But he does not seem to be learning how to read. The only vaccination he did not have was the 4 yr MMR, but he did have the 1 yr old one. He is way ahead in math in school, about one grade level. But does not seem to be learning how to read yet. But he is only 6 so we have time.

5th child, not vaccinated hardly at all. He did get the DTP because of all the cases of whooping cough. He is almost a year old and has 6 words in his vocabulary! That is ahead actually.

I read that vaccinations have been associated with the wide range of communication disorders, which go from dyslexia to full blown Autism to what is in between (speech delays and other forms of Autism disorders).

We kept saying when we were having this baby that if he ends up being our first non speech delayed child, after 4 speech delayed children, we would blame the vaccinations. Then it ended up turning out that way, so far. I will stlll be out on this until he turns 3.

What do you think?

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Tue, 08-03-2010 - 9:36pm

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Tue, 08-03-2010 - 11:15pm

I have 2 children with the PDD-NOS DX and the older one had high fevers with the shots. I am not sure if the younger one did have high fevers. I do know that the doctor always told us to give motrin and tylenol both before the shots.

I am largely concerned because I do have a baby now and I don't want to repeat what might or might not be a contributing factor. I breastfed my 8 yr old for 2.5 yrs, and was on zoloft the entire time. I had a baby die shortly before I got pregnant with him so I was on high doses of antidepressants. My 8 yr old acts like he cannot cope with anything.

I don't know for sure what has caused anything, but I am playing it safe now regarding medications while breastfeeding and pregnant and in early childhood, that includes vaccinations.

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In reply to: ribrit
Wed, 08-04-2010 - 3:27pm

Hi there!


I know that this issue can be a sensitive one, but it is okay to discuss

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Thu, 08-05-2010 - 3:00pm

I am not on here for debate and that is why I am on a support board. But just because I don't agree with you, doesn't mean I don't do any research.

I replied to you because you were the one who did the original post. If you read my other post on your other thread about anti-depressants, I did mention that I think there is an environmental trigger. You're the one who made a statement that both anti-depressants and vaccines caused autism. Well, maybe in your case they did. But many posters, including myself, did not have this experience. As I mentioned before, they do not know what causes it yet. So unless you are God, you can't possibly know for sure what causes it either.

As far as my taking issue with your statement about aborted fetuses, I do not deny that there are cell lines from a fetus resulting from a spontaneous abortion (meaning miscarriage) back in the 1960's. So I don't know why you are morally opposed to this unless it is for the ick factor. I don't think this is a right to life issue otherwise organ transplants and blood transfusions would be morally unacceptable too. The Christian right's claims that ground up baby parts in vaccines cause autism are without any scientific merit.

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Thu, 08-05-2010 - 7:20pm

It is aborted embryos, not miscarried.

And you are making a big leap claiming that it is "The Christian right's claims that ground up baby parts in vaccines cause autism are without any scientific merit."

I don't do the chicken pox or Hep A because I do not want my children injected with aborted embryos, nor do I want to be a contributer to aborting embryos. Those vaccinations did not even come out until my older children were past the ages where they recommend them. Those are not even the ones that have been suspect in being a contributing factor to ASD. That was just a side not that I do not do those shots because of the abortion issue. I happen to be prochoice, but I am prochoice and antiabortion.

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