As I was saying.....

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Registered: 03-26-2003
As I was saying.....
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Wed, 05-12-2004 - 12:01pm
A friend of ours sent us this article via email today. I thought it kind of coincidental, since I'd just posted my concerns, and thought I would post a paragraph from it here. I don't know how to copy the article onto here, but I'll include the weblink below:

http//:www.counterpunch.org/madsen04222003.html

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Wayne Madsen writes, "Bush's bloodlust, his repeated commitment to Christian beliefs, and his constant references to 'evil doers,' in the eyes of many devout Catholic leaders, bear all the hallmarks of the one warned about in the Book of Revelations--the anti-Christ. People close to the Pope claim that amid these concerns, the Pontiff wishes he was younger and in better health to confront the possibility that Bush may represent the person prophesized in Revelations...According to journalists close to the Vatican, the Pope and his closest advisers are also concerned that the ultimate acts of evil--the September 11 terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center and Pentagon--were known in advance by Senior Bush administration officials. By permitting the attacks to take their course, there is a perception within the Roman Catholic Church hierarchy that a coup d'etat was implemented, one that gave Bush and his leadership near-dictatorial powers to carry out their agenda.">>

Now I haven't gone this far in what I've stated in my previous posts,but I thought I had to share this, considering our discussion. The article also mentioned that Bush, as Governor of Texas, put 152 people on death row to death. But pull up the link, and you can read the article. I'm not stating Bush is the anti-Christ, but I guess in a more forceful way than me, this states that the Vatican itself shares some of my concerns about this Administration.

And now that I've stirred the pot even more, I'll reiterate that I am not trying to offend anyone with my posts, I'm just putting out my own concerns, and backing them up with this article.

Sofia




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Wed, 05-12-2004 - 12:53pm
Let me suggest before jumping on to the "Bush is the anti-Christ" bandwagon that people read the full article (google search: "madsen bush anti christ" it's the first article) AND do a little research on Wayne Madsen, his writings and his political ambitions. This is NOT a disinterested journalist. This is a man with a vested interest in pushing only one side of an issue, not to mention he makes accusations in his writing with no credible references (just some vague "insiders say" "source close the ....." journalistic bull) and uses so much hyperbole the bull could sink the titanic.

I agree Bush has some issues when it comes to the war (oh yeah and remember that annoying little fact that the PRESIDENT can't declare war) but this guy is so far out in left field I doubt many liberals want to be associated with him.

"Government big enough to supply everything you need is big enough to take everything you have. The course of history shows that as a government grows, liberty decreases." - Thomas Jeff

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Registered: 03-27-2003
Wed, 05-12-2004 - 1:40pm
Br. Rich can correct me if I'm wrong, but from what I've always been taught, the Catholic Church does not take Revelation to be a literal prophecy of the "end times." The Church's position is that Revelation is actually about the history of the early Church and was written in allegorical terms because the early Christians were already undergoing persecution. And, I believe, the Church suggests the "anti-Christ" might have been Nero or some other Roman leader. So it seems strange to me that the Pope would say something that's so contradictory to what the Church has taught for years.
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Registered: 03-28-2003
Thu, 05-13-2004 - 11:20am
I think this kind of thing is very indicative of the Unbelieving Left.

They have a caricature of what a Christian is, particularly a conservative one, and then lump all of us together under one banner (usually Jerry Falwell or Pat Robertson), and then convict us of beliefs that we don't hold.

An immediate red flag for me was "sources close to the Pope/Vatican insiders" etc. Good journalism, particularly in an article where the premise is pretty outrageous, needs actual sources.

Anyone can write that kind of bunk.