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Mon, 03-07-2005 - 9:35am

I just wanted to introduce myself to all of you. My name is Lynne. I'm a stay at home mom. I repair/troubleshoot computers on the side. I have 5 children who are 21, 17, 15, 11 and 9. I just "aquired" another child, a 17 yr old boy. He was a runaway but after dealing with the sheriff, police and his mother, I'll probably keep him until he's 18. I have been widowed for 8 years. My husband was an ordained deacon for 2 years before his death.

Last week, my diocese, diocese of Phoenix, finally lowered the age for confirmation!! It has been set at 17, which is usually a junior in high school. The new age is 8 or third grade. This makes me SO very happy! It was so hard to get teen agers to go to "religion class". They have so many other things to do such as sports, homework, etc. Next year my parish will confirm 9 thru 12th grades. It will take time for classes to be set up to confirm the younger ones. What a relief for the parents!

Lynne

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Mon, 03-07-2005 - 11:59am

Hi Lynne! Welcome to the board. You sound like such a wonderful women. I don't know if I have what it takes to foster a youth with that many problems. Kudo's to you!!

8yr's for confirmation seems sort of young to me. But I can understand teens in sports not wanting to go to RE. Our diocese has set the age at 9th grade. I think there are two choices for RE too...either a three hr RE once a week or a 1-1/2 hr twice a week. It's going to be a while before I have kids that age (and even when I do, we won't be living here---my dh is a Marine) Our kids are 6, 4, 1yr.

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Mon, 03-07-2005 - 12:45pm

Hi Lynne,

I'm pretty new here too...and I don't get to come to the board as often as I'd like. I've enjoyed it every time I've come though!

Wow, 17 seems kind of "old" for Confirmation, but 8 seems kind of young. I was confirmed in the 9th grade...and that seemed just right. Note the Goldilocks and the Three Bears allusion ;-)

Hope you enjoy the board,

Martha

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Mon, 03-07-2005 - 2:50pm

Welcome Lynne! Here's a link to some information on the "reordering of the Sacraments of Initiation". http://www.ogilvie.ac.uk/html/christian_initiation_of_children.htm It's actually from a Catholic diocese in Scotland, but it has a lot of information on this change.

Ruth

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Tue, 03-08-2005 - 1:20am

Lynne,


Hulloooo! Welcome to our little neck of the woods. It's nice to "see" new faces on the board. What a good-sized family, how wonderful. And I'm sorry for the loss of your husband. My prayers are with you.


Interesting, the change in age. Why did they lower it? (I received my Confirmation at 12 ... and boy, I certainly needed it. LOL) I know that in the Mexican culture, the babies receive baptism, communion and confirmation sometimes in one ... So the age limit doesn't shock me very much. ;-)


 

 

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Tue, 03-08-2005 - 9:13am

I think they lowered it because too many parents were complaining that their children are just too busy. Once they hit high school, there's girls, sports, homework, girls, etc. It's harder than pulling teeth to try to get these kids to confirmation class. I was confirmed at age 12 and think that's the perfect age to receive the sacrament. Third grade is a bit young but I really don't have any problems with it so far. The diocese now has to figure out how they'll handle the "catch up". I was told that my parish will be lowering the confirmation age/grade yearly until they hit third grade. It should be interesting.

Another thing that they currently "require" for confirmation is so many hours of community service. Their defintion of it is not the same as mine. The confirmation class is also required to go to Mexico to help build churches. This part I don't agree with!! My daughter was confirmed 3 years ago. I had to fight with the instructor to get her confirmed. They said that volunteering in a nursing home wasn't community service. They wanted her to sort clothing in the back of the St. Vincent De Paul thrift store. To make a long story short, I won and she got confimed. All this will be avoided now that the age is lowered.

We live in northern Arizona. The Mexican border is about 5 hours away.

Lynne




Edited 3/8/2005 9:19 am ET ET by bewildered05
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Tue, 03-08-2005 - 1:30pm

Some of the "official" reasons for some parishes are lowering the age of Confirmation:

1. to re-establish the original order in which the Sacraments of Initiation were celebrated in the early Church;

2. to avoid any tendency to think of Confirmation as a ‘Sacrament of Maturity’;

3. to re-assert clearly the primacy of the Eucharist in Christian Initiation;

4. to address the perceived inability of (most) schools to make the status quo ‘work’;

5. to re-establish the proper role of parishes and families in the Christian Initiation of Children

These were taken from the link I shared in my previous post. The information goes on to explain each of these points in more detail.

Ruth

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Thu, 03-10-2005 - 11:06am

Ruth,

I did not know this and it is interesting...thanks for posting it!

Martha

PS...I've always loved the name Ruth