reproductive technology

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Sat, 08-08-2009 - 9:30pm

since this IUI is something I'd never heard of I started some research:


http://www.usccb.org/prolife/issues/nfp/treatment.htm


and this is from the Catechism:


2377 Techniques involving only the married couple (homologous artificial insemination and fertilization) are perhaps less reprehensible, yet remain morally unacceptable. They dissociate the sexual act from the procreative act. The act which brings the child into existence is no longer an act by which two persons give themselves to one another, but one that "entrusts the life and identity of the embryo into the power of doctors and biologists and establishes the domination of technology over the origin and destiny of the human person. Such a relationship of domination is in itself contrary to the dignity and equality that must be common to parents and children."167 "Under the moral aspect procreation is deprived of its proper perfection when it is not willed as the fruit of the conjugal act, that is to say, of the specific act of the spouses' union . . . . Only respect for the link between the meanings of the conjugal act and respect for the unity of the human being make possible procreation in conformity with the dignity of the person."168


Renee


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Mom to: Madeleine, James,

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Fri, 08-14-2009 - 7:21am

Sofia,your words are clear and make total sense.


And worth noting,in my post I was not trying to say through anecdotes that priests condone this treatment.

 


 


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Wed, 08-12-2009 - 8:33am

This is from the USCCB website:


"How do I know when a reproductive technology is morally right?"

The rule of thumb is:


Any procedure which assists marital intercourse in reaching its procreative potential is moral

Procedures which add a "third party" into the act of conception, or which substitute a laboratory procedure for intercourse, are not acceptable.


Technologies Compatible with Catholic Teachings:

Observation of the naturally occuring sign(s) of fertility (Natural Family Planning). Time intercourse on the days of presumed (potential) fertility for at least six months before proceeding to medical interventions.(2)

General medical evaluation of both spouses for infertility.

Post-coital test to assess sperm number and viability in "fertile type" mucus. These tests are undertaken after normal intercourse.

Appropriate evaluation and treatment of male factor deficiency. Seminal fluid samples can be obtained from a non-lubricated, perforated condom after normal intercourse.

Assessment of uterine and tubal structural competence by imaging techniques (e.g., ultrasound, hysterosalpingogram, etc.).

Appropriate medical treatment of ovulatory dysfunction.

Appropriate (usually surgical) correction of mechanical blocks to tubal patency (the state of being open).


Renee


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Mom to: Madeleine, James,

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Tue, 08-11-2009 - 11:07pm

From my understanding, the problem with IVF is that several embryos are conceived, but only one or two are injected, and from those, there is a less than 50% chance that any will actually implant. The ones that aren't injected are either frozen for research, future use, or discarded. Therefore, it is the same as abortion in that it is embryo-destructive. In other words, it destroys human life.




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Sun, 08-09-2009 - 1:41pm
IVF is wrong; there is no doubt about that..... but unfortunately some priests dont know any better than their parishioners (esp since it's not an issue they deal with often)... and some dont' want to scare away parishioners by telling them the truth...

Renee


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Mom to: Madeleine, James, Abigail, Theresa & John

Renee


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Mom to: Madeleine, James,

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Sun, 08-09-2009 - 1:36pm

This is a really touchy topic.

 


 


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Sat, 08-08-2009 - 11:45pm

I found this on the Vatican website....


http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/documents/rc_con_cfaith_doc_19870222_respect-for-human-life_en.html


6. HOW IS HOMOLOGOUS ARTIFICIAL INSEMINATION TO BE EVALUATED FROM THE MORAL POINT OF VIEW?


.....Thus moral conscience "does not necessarily proscribe the use of certain artificial means destined solely either to the facilitating of the natural act or to ensuring that the natural act normally performed achieves its proper end".(53) If the technical means facilitates the conjugal act or helps it to reach its natural objectives, it can be morally acceptable. If, on the other hand, the procedure were to replace the conjugal act, it is morally illicit. .....

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Sat, 08-08-2009 - 11:24pm
I tried looking on the PPVI Institute website but I couldn't find a search function

Renee


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Mom to: Madeleine, James, Abigail, Theresa & John

Renee


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Mom to: Madeleine, James,

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Sat, 08-08-2009 - 11:19pm

Hey Renee ~


The Church has not ruled for or against IUI so long as the specimen is collected "licitly" - a non lubricated perforated condom is acceptable for collecting a sample.


I do not see this as morally wrong so long as the sample is not collected via masturbation.


I might contact this Pope Paul VI Institute and get some more information. It seems like a really good resource for Catholics and infertility. =)


In the article you posted:


Reproductive Technologies under Discussion (neither "approved" nor "disapproved"):



  1. Gamete intra-fallopian transfer (GIFT).
    (The Sacred Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith has not yet pronounced on the subject.)


  2. Intrauterine insemination (IUI) of "licitly obtained" (normal intercourse) but technologically prepared semen sample (washed, etc.).

In another article that I found on the web:


http://www.staycatholic.com/what_is_wrong_with_in-vitro_fertilization.htm


Catholic theologians and ethicists would agree that NaPro Technology is morally acceptable Cataldo said. Cataldo pointed out that "certain drug therapies and egg-stimulating medications at doses that don't have disproportionate risks for the children engendered or for the mother" also are acceptable. But other technologies, such as intrauterine insemination (IUI) and gamete intrafallopian transfer (GIFT) fall into a gray area. "Some moral theologians and ethicists see these techniques as assisting the conjugal act. Others see it as replacing it," he said. "Until such time as the Vatican speaks, Catholics contemplating the use of IUI or GIFT should inform themselves of both sides of the moral and theological argument and then make a decision in good conscience."

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