Sorry so Late...Gospel According to Mark

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Sorry so Late...Gospel According to Mark
Tue, 09-02-2003 - 10:42am
..So the Pharisees and cribes Questioned him..Why do your Disciples follow the Tradition of the Elders but instead eat a Mealw/unclean hands?....This People honor me with their lips but their hearts are far from me. In Vain do they worship me, teaching of doctrines human precepts.......

You know, I was out of town this Weekend and Heard this gospel from a Church I am not familiar with. The translation didn't seem the same nor did I follow the Homily. My only relation would be relevant to my concern about the Tuna Post...Tell me what you think....




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Tue, 09-02-2003 - 2:41pm
I'd be interested in hearing your homily on this gospel reading. I see churches do have different interpretations sometimes where I find it difficult to find the church I belong to, disregarding my lack of presence in certain situations. I find the gospel & readings coexist for the purpose of interpretation, In Real Life versus Living in the Spirit.

BTW, I love your tuna story. I never ever thought about the smell of tuna, except maybe another kind! (how true!) I can also use the wheat bread interpretation wisely if or/& when one may be better.

Gospel (Mk 7:1-8, 14-15, 21-23)

When the Pharisees with some scribes who had come from Jerusalem

gathered around Jesus,

they observed that some of his disciples ate their meals

with unclean, that is, unwashed, hands.

- For the Pharisees and, in fact, all Jews,

do not eat without carefully washing their hands,

keeping the tradition of the elders.

And on coming from the marketplace

they do not eat without purifying themselves.

And there are many other things that they have traditionally observed,

the purification of cups and jugs and kettles and beds. -

So the Pharisees and scribes questioned him,

"Why do your disciples not follow the tradition of the elders

but instead eat a meal with unclean hands?"

He responded,

"Well did Isaiah prophesy about you hypocrites, as it is written:

This people honors me with their lips,

but their hearts are far from me;

in vain do they worship me,

teaching as doctrines human precepts.

You disregard God's commandment but cling to human tradition."

He summoned the crowd again and said to them,

"Hear me, all of you, and understand.

Nothing that enters one from outside can defile that person;

but the things that come out from within are what defile.

"From within people, from their hearts,

come evil thoughts, unchastity, theft, murder,

adultery, greed, malice, deceit,

licentiousness, envy, blasphemy, arrogance, folly.

All these evils come from within and they defile."

Reading I (Dt 4:1-2, 6-8)

Moses said to the people:

"Now, Israel, hear the statutes and decrees

which I am teaching you to observe,

that you may live, and may enter in and take possession of the land

which the LORD, the God of your fathers, is giving you.

In your observance of the commandments of the LORD, your God,

which I enjoin upon you,

you shall not add to what I command you nor subtract from it.

Observe them carefully,

for thus will you give evidence

of your wisdom and intelligence to the nations,

who will hear of all these statutes and say,

‘This great nation is truly a wise and intelligent people.'

For what great nation is there

that has gods so close to it as the LORD, our God, is to us

whenever we call upon him?

Or what great nation has statutes and decrees

that are as just as this whole law

which I am setting before you today?"

Responsorial Psalm (Ps 15:2-3, 3-4, 4-5)

R- One who does justice will live in the presence of the Lord.

Whoever walks blamelessly and does justice;

who thinks the truth in his heart

and slanders not with his tongue.

Who harms not his fellow man,

nor takes up a reproach against his neighbor;

by whom the reprobate is despised,

while he honors those who fear the Lord.

Who lends not his money at usury

and accepts no bribe against the innocent.

Whoever does these things

shall never be disturbed.

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Tue, 09-02-2003 - 3:22pm
Well my take on this week's gospel and the homily I sort of heard over my dd's whining are 2 entirely different things.

The priest at our church took the homily in the direction of changing traditions/a living Church/etc. I was scared at first as to where he was heading with all of this (DH and I are very doctinally conservative) when he suddenly began addressing Vatican II and the need to embrace the changes post Vat.II. He was broad enough not to scare me too much, but I'm really taking a wait and see approach to his next homily. That said here's my interpretation.

From the Gospel:

"Well did Isaiah prophesy about you hypocrites, as it is written:

This people honors me with their lips,

but their hearts are far from me;

in vain do they worship me,

teaching as doctrines human precepts.

You disregard God's commandment but cling to human tradition."

This passage has always pretty much summed it up for me. Worshipping and faithfulness to God is not about following visible and vain traditions outwardly but worshipping with your heart, with your faith, with your actions. Say it with me: "They will know we are Christians by our love, by our love." Notice, not by the ashes on our forehead, of the skirts around our legs, or the chaplets over our hair, but by our composure, our attitude, our caring. To me this passage goes hand in hand with the passage which says, "when you are fasting do not go about forlorn and weak, but smile and let no man know you are fasting. What you do in secret Your Father will see and reward in secret." (ok, badly, badly paraphrased but you get the idea)

How often are Christians criticized by non-believers for their hypocrisy. They say they love God and wish to follow his commandments. They go to confession once a month and mass every Sunday but Saturday night they may drink and shamelessly flirt with another's spouse. They claim Catholicism on Sundays and through Church marriages but publicly renounce it's laws through being proudly pro-choice or blatantly living in sin and denouncing the Church to outsiders as "old fashioned and irrelevant". Or even worse are those who seemingly obey every Church law and are "more Catholic than the Pope" and yet live with hate and jealousy in their hearts. This is what Jesus warned us all about through this disagreement with the Pharisees. Yes, we should be mindful of our traditions, but we should be more mindful of our hearts and whether we are following God's commandments or men's traditions only.

Hope that rambling made some sense.

"Government big enough to supply everything you need is big enough to take everything you have. The course of history shows that as a government grows, liberty decreases." - Thomas Jeff