What Can Be Done??

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What Can Be Done??
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Mon, 03-29-2010 - 2:11pm

For lack of a better descriptor, it's a disgrace to see the news stories --esp. during Holy Week --about the cancer in the Church. We all know about it. We've all heard about it for decades. And the fact that it hasn't been appropriately dealt with puts a huge stain on our otherwise-beautiful faith.


We know The Powers That Be have been shuffling molesters around for years and years. A blind eye has been turned over and over. This is unacceptable but what can be done? Is anyone's parish actually approaching this issue?


I keep wishing that the Vatican (and whatever smaller divisions of the Church) would, once and for all, accept the blame they have in this fiasco, out those who need to be outed, whomever they are, and make their own Grand Confession and Penance. We are expected to do so as followers and I believe it would help heal the Church and greatly improve its standing in the eyes of others who have been horrified at the lives ruined.


The Church is 1.5? billion strong and this is a very, very small majority but it HAS to be dealt with. Those terrible things could have happened to me. Or you. Or our parents, grandparents, children. It is never acceptable to push off the blame and not punish the guilty.


I am sincerely wondering if anyone else is as incensed by this as I am. Any other time over the past few years I've mentioned something about it here, I've gotten no replies. I want to see who will step forward with an opinion on this and any ideas on helping our beloved faith to heal. Thanks.


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Registered: 03-28-2003
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Tue, 03-30-2010 - 11:28am

I think things are being done -- at least in my diocese. Have there been recent cover-ups where you live?


By the way, last night the news here reported that the judge on the case involving those deaf boys said that a trial was in progress when the priest died, contrary to the NYT article. I'm doubtful that made national news.


I'm satisfied with the current zeo-tolerance policy. I'm also satisfied with some changes to the discernment process for priests, including psychological testing. The Church has apologized, and in many cases paid damages, which is a secular version of penance, I guess.


As for the past, it is a horrible tragedy. In some cases, I think it was less a cover -up and more a terrible naivete about how insidious pedophilia is. Some of these men were sent to treatment, and the church was told they were cured. That wasn't just a Catholic thing; that's how it was treated then.


Sometimes, I think it was a case of those in charge focusing on forgiveness and mercy for the priests, rather than on the victims.

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Registered: 08-26-2000
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Tue, 03-30-2010 - 11:11pm

I think the time of parishes turning a "blind eye" has been over for quite some time.

The few priests I know are pretty careful not to be in questionable circumstances with kids. We treat our altar servers to lunch and games at a local pizza place. Our pastor will come to eat with the kids, but when the meal is done and the games begin, he is out the door. Our former pastor will not even make the trip with his altar servers for fear that someone might accuse him of something. "I'd rather the parents take them, and tell me about it when they get back." Another refused to be alone with altar servers in the sacristy before Mass.

To the best of my knowledge the Pope has condemned anyone who would harm one of God's little ones.

The New York Times piece might just have a little bit of anti-Catholic bias (or maybe a lot). They haven't been too friendly to the church in the past.

There are a couple of blogs that I read that have addressed the issues and accusations much better than I would ever be able to.

http://dzehnle.blogspot.com/ has both a response to the New York Times piece by Archbishop Dolan and a response by the canon lawyer who presided over the canonical trial of Fr. Lawrence Murphy.

http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/theanchoress/2010/03/30/murphy-case-nyt-never-talked-to-judge/ has some of the same info, but also other references, etc.

Karen

 


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Wed, 03-31-2010 - 8:42am

I think it's sad that your priest is fearful of bowling with the altar servers. it's in a public place with other adults present.

Our sacristy door stays open so they kids are never alone with priest or deacon. I love that our priest is not afraid to hug or even kiss (he kissed my dd's forehead a few weeks ago) the kids... kids need to see priests as more than a figure on the altar

Renee


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Renee


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Registered: 03-28-2003
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Wed, 03-31-2010 - 11:07am

When did the Church apologize?


Here: http://www.usccb.org/bishops/presidentialaddress.shtml


I think you'll like the approach taken.


Excerpts from the Pope's apology to the Irish: http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE62J0T620100320


And most recently around here, the archbishop addressed the issue at Mass yesterday, and apologized.


That's a start. Just google and you'll find more, no doubt.


Polly

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Registered: 03-27-2003
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Wed, 03-31-2010 - 9:38pm

Despite the Los Angeles Archdiocese's past of shuffling these priests around etc etc, there are very strict rules and requirements in place even for parent volunteers.

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Registered: 04-02-2009
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Thu, 04-01-2010 - 12:28pm

We've all seen the change in "privacy" in confessionals, etc>>>>

If anything old fashioned confessionals (which I miss) would be better because there is no contact between confessor and penitent.

Our Reconciliation Room has a closed door with no window.... not at all good if we're truly concerned.... and doing Confessions out in the open doesn't float with me

Renee


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Mom to: Madeleine, James, Abigail, Theresa & John


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Renee


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Mom to: Madeleine, James,

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Registered: 08-26-2000
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Thu, 04-01-2010 - 5:58pm

I agree that it is sad, but it is reality.

 


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Registered: 05-15-2009
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Fri, 04-02-2010 - 8:46am
I saw on our local news that the priest in the story regarding the deaf children had died, so it's being reported.

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Registered: 05-15-2009
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Fri, 04-02-2010 - 8:49am
Thanks for those links, Polly.

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Registered: 05-15-2009
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Fri, 04-02-2010 - 9:01am

It is troubling to hear all of the abuse stories, especially during holy weeks.