Angelia: ? for you re: CBE Fert. Monitor

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Angelia: ? for you re: CBE Fert. Monitor
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Sat, 09-06-2003 - 3:14pm
Angelia,

Hi my name is Julie and this question is for you, I was reading a post you answered to someone else about cp and if she ov'd and wanted to ask you a question re: your CBE fertility monitor you made mention of.

I just bought one this past month and just starting using it this cycle, right now I am on cd 16 with no ov yet (I "should" ov around cd 20-21, I have a 34 day cycle) right now at cd 16 my monitor on "cd 15" read the high fertility with two bars but I read in the handbook/directions that b/c I am new to the monitor and it does know me well yet that I could have 5 high fertility days up until my peak day and it said just for this month it might say that. Did you have a few days of high fertility then it went to peak a day or two before you ov'lated? I am just curious b/c I have no EWCM like everyone mentions and wonder if I can ov without having it. I have a bit when I check my cp with my finger but only a bit and it's white and creamy (sorry, tmi). What cycle do you have? How many days long and what cd are you currently on? Also, how long have you been ttc and how long have you been using the monitor? Do you feel it's been accurate? I hear nothing but good things about it, thats why I made the large purchase. I think I am also going to end up using 20 testing sticks right now since I am on cd 16 and it has only detected high fert.

If you could shed some light and answer any q's you might know and share your expereince about the monitor that would be so helpful to me.

Thanks so much.

Julie (29), DH (30)

ttc #1

c 1

cd 16

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Sat, 09-06-2003 - 3:34pm
I am so glad you made the purchase and you will not be sorry...I have to ask..did you start with the monitor on day one..?..some women make this mistake so I just wanted to mention it...if you have then here is some information...the computer does sometimes need a month to learn your cycle..the next month the number of sticks it needs lessens because it has gotten a run of your pattern..and yes the high fertility days do run longer your first cycle around than your next or so on..unless you are on clomid..then the computer can read false high fertility days but definte peak days....but I loved this machine...(I am not ttcer at this moment because I have my children after 2 years of infertility, miscarriage, and complicated pgs but I did it from 98 till I had my last son this year)...I used it one cycle with clomid first son...(this was after doing opk's and such for two years and one miscarriage)...and three cycles second son...it would show me a number of high fertility days..and then one or two peak days...with me my cycles were 30cd long..and I would o anywhere from cd 16 to 19 usually..and as for the cm...I would get on robutussin especially with using this monitor to amplify my chances..it will thin the mucus out so it will be easier to reach and know..but the next cycle if you don't get pg this one...will be much easier on you...and always remember that the testing must be done in the window instructed by the booklet...to me the computer was very accurate and took the guess work out of guessing if the opk's line was darker or as dark as the control line..I did these things for months and months and wish I had bought the monitor sooner...I hope this helps and if you have more questions that I might can answer or if I missed one here let me know..happy to help in anyway...getting pg is the only mission on one's mind when trying to ttc..

xxoo

Angelia




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Sat, 09-06-2003 - 4:45pm
Angelia,

Thanks so, so much for all your helpful info. I started my monitor on cd 5 (it arrived off ebay late) but the booklet said I could start at cd 5 at the latest so I hope it has not messed anything up. I have a feeling I'll get high fert. days for at least two more days but next Tues 9-10 or 9-11 I should O if my cycles are right on or close to 34 days. So you feel that with the monitor telling me I had high fert. that it was true, not read wrong or anything? I think high fert. means it has detected the estrogen changes in your body, that is what I read anyways. It's weird, the testing sticks, after the monitor reads them and it signals me to take it out of the machine, the testting stick itself has two blue lines on it, I think one is the so called "control" line and other must be my line to show how fertile I am (I think thats how the monitor is reading them) and my line is very faint compared to the control line but seems like its getting a bit darker each day as my estrogen goes up. I set my testing window from 5:45 a.m.- 12:15 p.m.(I actually set it at 8:45 a.m. one morning but it goes 3 hrs. before and after the time you set it right?) Just to be sure. I know every morning I get up around 8-8:30 a.m. I turn it on and it asks me to test and I do. It's been at high fert. for two days now, do you think it will do it for another two days since this is my first month?

So did you use this monitor conceiving your two kids then? I'm assuming so since you seem so knowlegable about it. Well I am just hoping to O this cycle and if not, I know it's very early but my doc said she would put me on Clomid (I kinda need/hoping to get pg fast due to insurance reasons--long story) to have the whole birth covered but if not, you cannot control nature. How did you like the clomid (not to change the subject)? Were you at the lowest dosage 50 mg? Were you on it to conceive both your kids? How long were you on it (cycles of it) total each birth to get pg? Just curious in case I need to go on it.

Also, just today (being approx. 5 days from O) I bought some Robutussin and just took 2 teaspoons (too much??) I think your suppose to take only 1 tsp. but I thought since I have no cm what so ever, I'd try a bit more and see what happens, it shouldn't harm me for only 5 days of use.

Well if you don't mind answering these few more q's, I would really, really appreciate it. You're so informative!

Thanks again. I'll be checking back on this later tonight to say hi to everyone and browse around. Talk to you soon.

Julie

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Sat, 09-06-2003 - 5:10pm
I don't think cd 5 was to late..but the company itself..the hotline really says it is best to start cd 1...but I don't think you really set yourself back...it is most likely if it said you had high fertility then you are high fertility...and I have seen as many a 6 high fertility days with myself pass before without the clomid...as far as the lines...they are both different lines read by the computer..for two differnt hormones..one is estrogen..and I believe is lh surge..so if the lines vary don't worry..they won't be the same cause they aren't the same thing..I am sure of that part...I used the monitor conceiving both children...with my first Ethan..I was on 50 mg two months then 100 mg third month and first month use of this machine and I was pg...with my second Jake..I only used it 3 months total..(they say once you have been pg..that having the next one is not as difficult cause it sorta jump starts you system..this can be true and sometimes not just depends but it was easier)...

The clomid was not bad for me except I became quite moody (felt like the world was against me..lol) but this only lasted the days I was on the clomid...which I did cd 1 through 5...and it really worked well..I had become annovluatory after my miscarriage..and my doctor monitored my ovulation and hormone levels then..make sure if you are tested for o that they don't test by the book..like for instance always day 21..but 7dpo past your suspected ovulation..

I don't think you overdosed on Robutussin..but I would definetly just take one tsp. everday from cd 1 till o next time..and for now 1 tsp. until o this time..it may not have time to work..but it isn't going to hurt anything either...I hope this information helps you out some..and don't be shy to ask..I love to help get to the point of the matter..which is having babies...I have baby brain right now..but I don't need another..lol..want one just can't afford one..lol..that is why I am going back to get my 4 year degree to become labor and delivery nurse..good luck to you..

Angelia


Edited 9/6/2003 7:29:50 PM ET by anprdp




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Sat, 09-06-2003 - 7:31pm
One other thing I wanted to add was the fact that when on clomid with the monitor you can have alot of high fertility days and some will be false..because of the hormones in clomid..but the peak fertility days are always accurate..the clomid will not sway those results...

Angelia




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Sat, 09-06-2003 - 8:48pm
Hi,

Just thought I would add a little more info for you regarding your CBE Monitor. I used mine to conceive my first DD and I am currently expecting #2, it took two months to conceive each child on the monitor. I am a 30day cycle and would O on CD16, so it is very possible for you to O around CD20 since you are a 34 day cycle.

Here is some info regarding the best testing times with any OPK. I didn't know this until I read it on the boards a month ago. I happened to use FMU both times I conceived so it didn't affect my chances, but thought I would pass it along.

Good Luck!!!

-Donna


Q: What is the best time of day to take the ovulation test?

Unlike pregnancy tests, morning (first morning urine) is not the best time to collect samples for ovulation tests, as LH is synthesized in your body early in the morning and will not appear in your urine until the afternoon. The ideal time to test is in the afternoon, around 2pm, though testing may safely take place from 10am to early evening.

Q: Should I take the test the same time every day?

Yes, be sure to test at the same time each day. Also, reduce your liquid intake around 2 hours before testing as a diluted liquid sample can prevent or hinder LH detection.

Q: How long after my LH surge will ovulation take place?

Generally, ovulation will take place 12-48 hours after the LH surge is first detected (using afternoon urine samples), though 36 hours is considered to be the average length of time following the LH surge.



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Sat, 09-06-2003 - 10:18pm
Angelia,

Thanks a ton for your info again! I had not idea to start the Robutisson from cd 1 (day of af) I thought everyone was saying take it 5 days before suspected O date, so thanks for clearing this up. Also, if you read post 6 (after your 2nd post to me) Donna posted that FMU (first morn. urine) is not good when using the monitor, what is your opinion on this and did you always use FMU? I test every morning upon waking, I thought FMU was the best and the strongest. Just wondering what time of day you tested and if I should switch to later afternoon.

Let me know what you think if you have a sec and again, thanks for your help, you've been great and so nice!

Thanks a ton (I pray I O next week on Tues or Wed.)

Julie

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Sat, 09-06-2003 - 10:23pm
The Monitor works a little differently that regular opks so you do need FMU with this...it detects things differently with the monitor than a regular OPK does...but yes with regular OPK'S you are totally right about your info...I just don't want her to get confused with this...

here is a link about it straight from the company for all who are interested in it..

http://www.clearplan.com/FAQCPEFMTopicTOP9FAQs.cfm#3


hope this helps out...and I am not trying to be rude to anyone..and don't want anyone to take it that way please...


Angelia




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Sat, 09-06-2003 - 10:24pm
Hi Donna,

Thanks so much for posting re the monitor. Well, I've been using FMU b/c that is what everyone else told me they were doing who had one. It didn't seem to affect your chances :-)

I've gotten some advice on this and we'll see what comes back but it was a good point, thanks for pointing it out, if I need to test mid-afternoon within my testing window I guess I should change it now, so far I think the readings are correct. My ony worry as I posted previously, is I have no CM at all, none, dry as a bone! I hope that you don't need a lot to get pg or I'm in trouble. I just started taking Robitusson (I think I took it too late, didn't realize that you needed to start taking it from cd 1 (af day) not 5 days before you O, it might be to late to produce cm but I'm taking a tsp. everyday not until I O.

Thanks again for your input, I am curious to see what anyone thinks or does if they have one.

Julie

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Sat, 09-06-2003 - 10:28pm
Angelia,

I thought I was doing it right with FMU, but glad Donna brought it up just in case I was doing it wrong.

You've been wonderful and have never gotten responses back to my q's so quickly!

Hope you don't mind if I keep you at the top of my list while ttc #1 if I have q's, you've been extremly helpful, you're really good with this baby stuff.

Thanks a million!

Julie

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Sat, 09-06-2003 - 10:36pm
Not a problem I would be glad beyond words to help as much as possible...I have been there...and remember how baby fever goes..lol..good luck to you..

xxoo

Angelia




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