How do you BD for a boy or girl??

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How do you BD for a boy or girl??
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Thu, 10-02-2003 - 3:19pm
I was reading the posts below about trying for a boy or girl??? How do you do this???

I am curious!!!

I am sure that this has been discussed before but I was absent that day! LOL

This sounds very interesting to me!

I want a girl!! LOL

Please someone tell me how! :)

Stephanie

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Registered: 04-10-2003
Thu, 10-02-2003 - 3:36pm
Hi!

According to Dr. Shettles for a girl:

you should: eat/drink dairy products, eat beans, no meats, chocolate,

partner should take hot shower/bath before BD

You should BD 4/3 days before anticipated Ovulation (Missionary style-shallow penetration)

The book gives all the details. Ive been trying this method!! Good luck and hope for a BFP!!!!

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Registered: 09-29-2003
Thu, 10-02-2003 - 3:40pm
Hi Stephanie,

I think I talked to you over on the Clomid board, but I just made my way over here for the first time today.

Like you, I really want a girl, so I did some research online on this subject. :0) Of course, it is mostly wives tales, but the one I remember most clearly is that if the woman initiates the chances are better for a girl and if the man initiates the chances are better for a boy.

There is a section of iVillage - Parent Soup - that has a link to a Chinese gender chart. Apparently it is supposed to be fairly accurate. It has a way of looking at the woman's age and the month of conception & according to those two factors, you can find out what the baby's sex is. I am currently in the month for a girl, so hopefully my first clomid cycle works, because then I am in for 2 months of boy... LOL!

Good luck to you!!

Trisha

TTC#1 CC#1 CD#1

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Registered: 10-02-2003
Thu, 10-02-2003 - 4:55pm
Hi how are you? I too am trying for a girl...the only thing I have heard

is about a book from Dr.Shuttles(sp?) anyways you are supposed to have

sex 3 or more days prior to ovulation...douche w/1tsp vinegar / 1qt warm water

have shallow penetration...no female orgasm...sounds like it sucks to me.

But I am trying so...I want pink bows too YIPPIE!!!
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Registered: 03-30-2003
Thu, 10-02-2003 - 6:39pm
Hello,

You might want to go over to http://www.parentsoup.com/boards and go down to the pre-parenting section. Check out the last board, which is "Gender Determination". The women there are great and have tons of info. If you click on the top of the page, which says, Gender Determination, it will give you Gender Methods. Some say the moon theory, others used O+12 for a girl and it worked for most of the women who used it (I am currently using O+12). Others use Shettles (my second ds is a Shettles opposites, along with supplements, etc., so I am not a believer in Shettles. Also, that board had had tons of Shettles opposites.). I've done my research! It can't hurt to try to sway the odds! This is what I am doing for O+12:

first, pinpoint O by using CM, CP, BBT and OPKs.

once I see fertile CM, I start to use the OPKs once a day until I get a +. Once I see a +, I use them 3X per day and mark on the back which times they were taken. I go from the first + and count 24 hours until I would O. Then, I count 12 hours after that to BD. DH must obstain for at least 2 weeks, or as long as he can (the longer the better). Once O has been confirmed and 8-12 hours has passed, I check the moon chart to see if we are in a girl sign (you can get that link from the GD board also). If we are, I'll go ahead. I take 2 Citracal and a prenatal vitamin every day and drink lots of milk (part of the girl diet, along with cutting out soda and caffeine). Dh and I take a very hot bath, I vinegar douche (Massengil or any store brand, make sure there is nothing else in it except vinegar and water). Shallow penetration, no big O for me and "jump and dump" (this is just getting up right away and going to the toilet). Lots of prayer! Wow, this got long! Any questions, find us over at the GD board. Good luck, no matter what gender, I hope everyone sees a BFP very soon!

Kellie

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Registered: 08-25-2003
Thu, 10-02-2003 - 8:10pm
I dont agree with that method, but everyone has thier own opinions. My doctor would not say she supported or did not support Shettles method, but she did confirm several facts for me:

#1 Female sperm is hardier and lives longer than boy sperm. Female sperm can live for up to 4 days, while male sperm dies in 48 hours. So if you time BD to stop 3-4 days before o your chances are likely for a girl.

#2 The female reproductive track is acidic to kill off foriegn invaders, including sperm. Orgasm (female) causes a base secretion to be dispersed, making the environment more base, favoring sperm. Male sperm being more fragile is killed off faster by the acid. When you add an acidic douch (vigear for example) it makes it even harder for the sperm to survive, but kills off the male sperm first.

I have found not only from Dr Shettles book, but from asking around, people who o'd and BD the same day have more boys, while those who stop ahead of time have girls. Look at the statistics of boys vs girls in artifical insemination alone (you can find stats online, dont have a url handy) concieve mostly boys. Thats because the doctors monitor you for o signs, and try to pinpoint insemination for as close to your o as possible.

We'll see though I suppose. It took us 5 months to concieve using this method. I got my BFP today, 10 dpo, and we did everything possible this month by Shettles book. Here's my chart:

http://circles2.fertilityfriend.com/home/2ddcf


Jill 25

DH 32

DD 4 1/2

and one on the way!

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Registered: 03-28-2003
Thu, 10-02-2003 - 9:11pm
Looks like you received lots of good info, so you know how confusing this is! There are contradicting theories, just pick on that is right for you. There is a lot more info available at the link below. If you really drill down you can get the stats.

http://www.geocities.com/genderdetermination/

Best wishes, Nadine TTC#3, Shettles DD, C1, 9 or 10 dpo

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Registered: 03-30-2003
Thu, 10-02-2003 - 9:22pm
Check out the GD board and do a poll. I am not, by far, the only one who has had a Shettles opposite. My sister, amongts many others, had a 4-5 day c/o and had boy #3. I am not talking about BD right on top of o. I said 12 hours AFTER o. The whole idea is that the environment becomes very adicic right after o. The cervix closes, the EWCM dries up, your body is done with ovulation. You BD 12 hours after o, the egg is still viable, yet the environment favours girl sperm. All of which you say is definitely proven true, except that more boys are conceived on o day than girls. Female sperm are more hardy and live longer in the acidic environment. For 4-5 days leading up to o, your body is getting ready to "accept" the sperm. It turns more alkaline. That is the purpose of EWCM. It is a vehicle for sperm! ALL sperm (female and male) can live up to 3-5 days in that inviting, alkaline EWCM. I have also used ph strips, or litmus paper. I turn more acidic right after o. That is the key. I also agree with the douche, which is why I use a vinegar douche along with this method.

Here is an excerpt from a scientific study, which disproves Shettles theory:

" There is a small but statistically significant difference amounting to a deficit in male births with conceptions in the most fertile period. The DEFICIT of male births is associated primarily with conception 2-0 days before ovulation. The EXCESS of male births occur 3 or 4 days before ovulation or 2-3 days after. One explanation offered for the deficit of male births midcycle is that levels of gonadotropin may favor X bearing sperm. Support for this is given in another study of in vivo induction of ovulation and the sex ratio where 46% of 2608 births were males." - Am J Obstet Gynecol. 1991 Dec;165(6 Pt 2):1982-4.

That last sentence refers to IUI, where more females are conceived than males.

Kellie

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Registered: 03-30-2003
Thu, 10-02-2003 - 9:34pm
Thanks for the direct link, Nadine! I gave her the "roundabout" route to the GD methods page! LOL! That helps a ton!

Kellie

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Registered: 08-25-2003
Fri, 10-03-2003 - 7:03am
I dunno, I trust my personal obgyn more than the book, or anyone elses opinions. You have to right?

I still believe that those who get opposites most of the time have made some sort of error in thier pinpointing o, or timing, and some womens bodies are more base, some more acidic, which can play a part.

We'll see, in four months or so I'll know if it worked!!! :)

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Registered: 03-30-2003
Fri, 10-03-2003 - 8:17am
I really hope it worked for you! ITA with you on most points! I did have to "right" because I wanted the original poster to get as much info as possible if she is going to make a "gender attempt". I have been a part of that board for over 3 years now. I have gathered lots of info. Both my sister and I practice NFP, instructed by a very knowledgable instructor (so we took classes, just me, DH and the instructor for 10 weeks prior to using the method, so this is not a rhythym method or anything- I can pinpoint O to the hour, in most cases. Otherwise, at least to the day). With ds#2, I used the CPFM and OPKs to pinpoint O, along with cm, and had a 3 day c/o for sure. My sis had a 4-5 day c/o for sure and was completely dry the day of o, so it just depends. We all agree, on the GD board, that some women are Shettles candidates and others are not. Therefore, we are trying O+12 this time (which has around a 97% girl rate on the board). Good luck to you! I am hoping you have a very healthy baby in there, with some pink added. ;-)

BTW, I am not disputing the theory behind Shettles (that female sperm are more hardy and live longer, male sperm quicker and more fragile). That is part of both O+12 and Shettles. One focuses on timing (Shettles) and one focuses on environment (O+12). There is no right or wrong!! I just really meant for the original poster to get the most info possible.

Kellie