Hi ladies, I am back after 5 years...

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Hi ladies, I am back after 5 years...
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Wed, 06-29-2011 - 10:49am

Hi, I am Karri.

Karri

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Registered: 06-27-2006
Wed, 07-06-2011 - 5:37pm
You said that you had the HSG done and other bloodwork. What other bloodwork did you have done? If they did a generic panel like my first OBGYN's out here did, progesterone could be considered "normal" since they give a range, but doesn't indicate that you are in your pre-O or post-O part of your cycle. When I switched to my new OBGYN, he was a bit annoyed that they did all the other testing, but didn't do a proper Progesterone blood test on me. He had me go in at 4dpo, 7dpo, and 11dpo (I was supposed to go in at 3dpo, but that fell on a Sunday and the labs weren't open). Anyway, progesterone numbers are supposed to fall in a pretty "bell curve" and mine started out average, but instead of going up, like they should have, they just went down and down again. He put me on progesterone supplements for a few months in conjunction with Femara. But, he also did tell me that the Femara might help my progesterone numbers to "work properly" too, so I hope that they do the same for you...but I would also request that you get your numbers checked post-O - and not just one blood draw. Some offices will do three consecutive days, other offices will do staggered days like I mentioned. I hope they can figure this all out for you...or you can find a doctor who WILL help you out!
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Wed, 07-06-2011 - 5:28pm
Hi Karri! I was a member of the Conception after Miscarriage (CAM) board YEARS ago (about 10+) when it was just switching from ParentSoup to iVillage and then came here again (to what is now called TTCAM) after my most recent loss last June. This is a great place to be! I'm sorry you have been having Chemicals (even though the doctor doesn't want to call them that). (((HUGS))) Glad you found us, though!
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Wed, 06-29-2011 - 11:30pm

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Wed, 06-29-2011 - 1:29pm
First, I'm so sorry for your losses.

Second, I agree with Aimee and Chelle and what you are saying - I would go in ASAP next time you get a BFP and my guess is that the HCG level will be higher - above 5 - and will indicate to your dr. that you are having chemical PGs.

Second, do you know what kind of bloodwork tests he ran? They should be testing your progesterone levels after you ovulate to see if they are high enough during your LP. Second, you should definitely get a panel of b/w for the clotting disorders - one of those could definitely be causing the early losses. If your OB/RE won't test for this stuff, I would move on to someone else for sure.

Kelly, mom to 4 year old Lexi, wife to Rob TTC Number 2 since April 2010, with a loss in June 2010 at 4.5 weeks, and a loss in April 2011 at 8 weeks (possibly ectopic). Saw the RE in May 2011, we were moving forward with testing and an IUI when we
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Wed, 06-29-2011 - 1:23pm
Ha, everyone who knows my history knows what I am going to say now :) First of all, urine tests that are rated at 25 miu almost always pick up less than that. I have had off name brand hpt’s (I am talking 3 for $9 kind of tests) give me a faint BFP with a beta of 3. No kidding, 3. When I got my beta back, nurse told me I was losing it and that I saw no line. I knew that was crap because 12 hours later it was visable to everyone who saw it. The beta 48 hours later was 26. As many positives as you had, I have no doubt you were pg and you’re right, I think you just got the bloodwork done too late to catch it at it’s highest levels. You’re right that had you gone in the day of your BFP you probably would have seen it be around 20 and then the subsequent betas would have shown it dropping. But even with all that said it would have changed nothing except to put your losses on record which DOES matter.
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Wed, 06-29-2011 - 1:14pm
I totally understand. Whenever I got a faint BFP, I waited until it got darker. IMO it was easier to watch the line get lighter than to have the dr tell me, kwim? FX for ya.
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Wed, 06-29-2011 - 1:10pm
And I do believe the 0-5 5-25 25 + rule, but what I didn't mention was that the day I had the bloodwork was the 4th day of +hpt's and it had gotten more faint, so I thought it was definitely chemical and wanted to get bloowork. I think I waited too long. 3 different tests had faint positives, so I do think I was closer to 25, as that is where the urine tests I used measure. It may be more sensitive than 25, but I question whether urine HPT's set to pick up 25+ could pick up a level of 5. Bottom line, I should have gone with the first day of faint positive and then I would have had another reading before the level of 5, which most likely would have still been in the gray area, but would have at least been trending up, then down, and shown SOMETHING happened.

Karri

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Registered: 03-19-2007
Wed, 06-29-2011 - 1:10pm
Karri, I am sorry for your losses. I know how exciting it is to finally get that BFP only to have it fade. Just a little clarification about the number. Anything 0-2 is considered not pregnant. 2-25 is possibly, and anything over 25 is positive. I do know that if you are close to menopause, your number may be above may be above 2. I wish you the best of luck Chica!

There's a chart about half way down on this page if you want more information!!

http://www.sydpath.stvincents.com.au/tests/hCGold.htm

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Registered: 07-28-2009
Wed, 06-29-2011 - 1:06pm
You are right not to buy that because it isn't true. Nothing is going to mimic hCG. Not a thing. I think you're right to consider switching OB's
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Wed, 06-29-2011 - 1:03pm

I could be misunderstanding what you are saying, but I know that low progesterone levels do not create a positive test. What I mean is that if progesterone levels are low, it affects implantation and if implantation doesn't happen correctly, a pregnancy will not progress. His argument is that antibodies can be present that mimic HCG and will actually turn an HPT +. Not saying I buy that, but it's his claim.

Karri

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