Follie check and my *&%$#*&ing cat

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Follie check and my *&%$#*&ing cat
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Mon, 10-25-2010 - 10:45am

Today is CD 13 and I went for my follicle check this morning.

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Mon, 10-25-2010 - 11:10am

Aryn, those are GREAT follicles! Those sound more like injectable numbers than Clomid numbers! I wish Clomid worked as well for me as it does for you!

Now, that lining - you're right about it being too thin. Mine was the same way with both my Femara cycles. I asked for Estrace specifically and was told no. I lost two babies in a row with a lining at 6. PLEASE push them for the Estrace!

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Mon, 10-25-2010 - 11:25am
Ok, thanks for the advice. Last cycle on CD 15 my lining was 7.2 and by CD 18 it was 10.1. So I am guessing my lining is just slow to grow? I just took an OPK and it was BFN. Hopefully that will give my lining more time to grow too.
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Mon, 10-25-2010 - 11:31am
Okay this is going to seem complicated but I will try to make it simpler. Don’t compare your lining from month to month by CD. That is not what counts here. You need to compare your lining in ratio to follicle size and when they predict O. For instance, if you have mature follicles on CD 10 that are ready to pop you should have a lining of 8 or so ideally. But the next month you may only have 12mm follicles on CD 10 in which case it would make PERFECT sense to have a lining at 6.5 – does that make sense? You basically need your lining to be thick enough for implantation right before you O (which is where you are now). If it’s 6.5 five days before you O well that’s okay because it has time to grow. But having a follicle 20mm or over and a 6.5 lining isn’t ideally what you want. At this point, the longer it takes for you to get that + OPK and ovulate, the better!
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Mon, 10-25-2010 - 11:33am
Forgot to say - I am concerned that since this is my third cycle of Clomid, my lining is starting to suffer. After this cycle, I am going to ditch the Clomid and move on to something else.
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Mon, 10-25-2010 - 11:38am

I agree about the Clomid. I won't touch the stuff and that's why. I already have had lining problems in the past that I am convinced lead to my losses. I would rather never get pg again than lose another one. For the record, when I was on both Femara and Clomid I had linings of less than six come O time. When I moved to injectables, it was never under 12. Just saying! :) Also, I wanted to mention that both Clomid and Femara are anti-estrogens. They produce FSH by lowering estrogen levels and therefore 'tricking" the body into producing higher levels of FSH and intern creating bigger and sometimes a higher number of follicles. So my point is, even though Clomid is usually the one to get the bad wrap for thin linings, Femara can be just as guilty and my linings were super thin with BOTH drugs. Injectables are not anti-estrogen drugs. They don't trick your body into creating more FSH. They ARE FSH. You are basically just injected straight, purified FSH into your blood stream. So they don't effect your lining. PLUS they send Progesterone levels through the ROOF.

PS - If my cat stopped my DH from "finishing" right before he was about to "finish" the cat would almost certainly be dead :)

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Mon, 10-25-2010 - 12:01pm

Whoo-hoo Aryn!! That is great!!!!

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Mon, 10-25-2010 - 1:05pm
I was thinking the same thing about the cat...and we are really cat people.

So I am now curious about the injectibles. I'm in my 4th Femara cycle and I don't remember my lining numbers from before, but you can be sure I'll find out this Thursday! If it is less than ideal *and* this cycle doesn't work, I will probably be asking for injectibles next cycle. Its intramuscular shots, isn't it? Damn. I hate needles. Did you give them to yourself?
Chouli, 34; DH 45 Lilypie Pregnancy tickers
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Mon, 10-25-2010 - 1:16pm

I don't know anything about the drugs - but woohoo for mature follicles.

Kelly, mom to 4 year old Lexi, wife to Rob TTC Number 2 since April 2010, with a loss in June 2010 at 4.5 weeks, and a loss in April 2011 at 8 weeks (possibly ectopic). Saw the RE in May 2011, we were moving forward with testing and an IUI when we
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Mon, 10-25-2010 - 1:34pm

They’re not IM shots; they are subcutaneous shots but a lot of people get the two confused. IM’s need a longggggg needle to hit the muscle. Sub-q shots just need to penetrate all the layers of the skin and into the fatty tissue so the needle is relatively small. Maybe an inch. You do have to give them to yourself. DH did it for me at first but after a few times I was able to do it on my own. The needles are so sharp it hardly hurts at all and the medicine is thin like water not thick. I was on Depo for a while and that junk was IM and thick! It hurt like all get out! The FSH shots are really pretty easy to do.

The cons of the injectables is COSTTTTTTT and constant montoring appts. I had about 6 or 7 during the course of 8 or 9 days. So it’s mostly every day and MAYBE once or twice you can skip a day. The drugs cost me $800 and each and every single monitoring appt was $300. Plus the $500 a piece for the back to back IUI’s. Now of course that is assuming insurance doesn’t cover any of it.

But it WORKS. I had 7-10 follicles and a Progesterone level in the 30’s somewhere. I was absolutely FLOORED that I did not get pg.

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