6 weeks--no fetal pole detected

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Registered: 01-31-2007
6 weeks--no fetal pole detected
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Wed, 04-16-2008 - 4:35pm

Well, just got back from my appt.

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Registered: 11-18-2007
Wed, 04-16-2008 - 5:16pm
Oh Erin, Try to be optimistic will pray for your bean!

KIM

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Registered: 04-04-2008
Wed, 04-16-2008 - 6:27pm

Hi Erin,


Hang in there!

     Leeann   


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Registered: 09-04-2007
Wed, 04-16-2008 - 7:08pm

I don't know you but hang in there and good luck Sat.


Monica

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Registered: 10-12-2007
Wed, 04-16-2008 - 7:49pm
Oh Erin, I'll pray for you and your bean. Hang in there.

 

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Registered: 03-21-2005
Wed, 04-16-2008 - 10:14pm

Erin,

I know too well how disappointing and disheartening news like this is. Please try to think as positively as possible. Wait until there is a definite answer. In the meantime, I will join my prayers with the other ladies on the board for you and your beanie.

Hugs,
Cassandra

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Registered: 03-21-2005
Wed, 04-16-2008 - 10:23pm

Erin!!

Look what I found:

The fetal pole is a thickening on the margin of the yolk sac of a fetus during pregnancy. It is usually identified at 6.5 weeks with abdominal ultrasound imaging, and 6 weeks with vaginal ultrasound imaging. However it is quite normal for the fetal pole to not be visible until about 8 weeks. The fetal pole may be seen at 2-4 mm crown-rump length (CRL), and heart motion is often detected when it is seen. In the embryo, the heartbeat is seen as a regular flutter, which should be first evident at 5 mm CRL. If the embryo is less than 5 mm CRL, it is possible for it to be healthy without showing a heartbeat, though a follow up study in 5-7 days will almost always demonstrate the heartbeat.

There is a website that I visit daily called Pregnancy Stories by Age or something like that. It is reports of women our age and sometimes older who have been successful in their TTC quest. I went to check it after I posted to you and this was the topic of one of the stories. As if it was meant to be! ;-) I hope this helps some.

Cassandra

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Registered: 12-17-2007
Wed, 04-16-2008 - 11:05pm

Erin:

P&PT that this is just a testing problem... too soon, and a fetal pole and everything else will be visible soon.

When is the next U/S? What were the previous, if any hCG results tests? When exactly was the U/S?

My RE was very clear... they never make determinations about pregnancy viability based on beta hCG alone. They always do a repeat U/S to make sure that they have the correct results. Make sure you get another U/S soon.

Let me know if you have any meticulous calculations you want made... I have become something of an expert.

You are in my thoughts even more now than before, and you were already in my prayers.

Libby

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Registered: 01-31-2007
Thu, 04-17-2008 - 3:49am

Thanks, everyone, for your kind words and prayers and thoughts.


Libby, this was my first appt.

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Registered: 12-17-2007
Thu, 04-17-2008 - 7:13am

Erin:

I am so sorry you are in this position. While it doesn't help, I know exactly what and how you are feeling. I have had the same thing said to me about date I was positive of, although they said my dates were out by 2 weeks... one week is a lot different and has the potential to have a positive outcome.

There are several things I want to suggest to you. You are going to worry, that is normal, but please do try to keep positive and consider that you may have OVL's late and implantation is not a precise science either - there are variation of dates; if you pray - pray; rub your tummy, seek and accept P&PT from every place possible...

Also, DO NOT use the hCG Calculator at the Baby Med site. You are past the date where it is accurate. It will give you a reading of a "slower than normal" or whatever it says that could be COMPLETELY WRONG. It does not take into account the increase in double time once you are over 1200 mIU/ml or the second shift once you hit 6000 mIU/ml. At 6 weeks, avoid this site altogether.

The following site offers a graph that should be a much better way to evaluate your results: http://www.dml.co.nz/hbook/5a7b0ab.htm
Plot the first result and then the second, but remember at 6w, your doubling time is likely to be higher than 48 hours.

This site also offers a graph + a doubling time calculator.
http://www.tubal-reversal.net/hcg-pregnancy-calculator-graph.php
It will allow you to see the double time and compare it to what you would hope for.

From American Pregnancy dot com:
As your pregnancy progresses, levels rise and that doubling time increases. The expected doubling time for HCG levels:
• Under 1200 mIU/ml: 48-72 hours.
• Between 1200 to 6000 mIU/ml: 72-96 hours.
• Over 6000 mIU/ml: more than 96 hours

I am sorry to be so scientific, but you need to be able to understand the results you get precisely. My RE's nurse said to me, "Oh your rates aren't doubling within the 48 hours that's not good." and got me all stirred up - when at the level of hCG in my system, it would not have been expected to double within 2 days. You need to understand the results, not just rely on someone else interpreting them for you.

Erin, it is posible that this pregnancy will end. I sincerely hope and pray that it does not, and that this is just a small blip on an otherwise healthy and happy 9 months. It is very encouraging that you got pregnant in the first place... and honestly, if this is your first ever pregnancy - that is an amasing sign that you can conceive and bring a child to term. After my first M/S (by blighted ovum) a friend said something so crazy and apparently insensitive to me that I cannot tell you the actual words for fear of seriously offending you... but his point was (having gone through it with his partner) that sometimes a woman's body needs to go through a bit of a test run to get everything working and then everythign works perfectly thereafter.

My hope is that this pregnancy is not a false start ultimately leading to your next pregnancy and baby, but rather a pregnancy that is just taking its own course. There are countless examples of variations proving to be nothing, and perfectly healthy babies being the result. I found a page on this very topic... it was a MD study page of caution in acting too fast on poor test results - they had unexpected U/S results or odd hCG levels - all ending up with full term, normal, healthy babies. If I can find it again - I will post it for you. It seriously made me question a lot of things I thought I understood about how pregnancies progress.

You are not alone and we are all praying and thinking good thoughts for you and your bean.

Libby

P.S. You can put off the discent into street drugs for another lifetime... this one is going to be busy with pregnancy and parenting.





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Registered: 12-13-2007
Thu, 04-17-2008 - 8:18am

Erin,

I am sorry that you have to go through this right now. Keep the faith. 6 weeks is really too early to be absolutely sure what is going on. There are so many variables, OVL date, implantation date, the quality of the u/s machine and tech. Was there a yolk sac? Don't get too hung up on the numbers. Depending on the initial number, all you want to see is that the numbers are going up, you may not see them double. Hang in there. The waiting is the worst part. P&PTs.

Marci


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