Well, I finally had my CD 3 blood work done today.
~ Jodi ~
I had my b/w done in the morning and had the results that afternoon.
Susan, my acu is a pretty big repro acu but also an MD herself (OB/GYN) here but she works in a busy clinic with other practitioners (doctors etc;) so she can order all the labs and even draw blood there as there are RN's to draw it etc; I wouldn't be going to see her is she wasn't that good because the office is busy and there are always sick people going in there.
"Dr. Lin received her medical degree from Beijing University of Traditional Chinese Medicine in China in 1992. Upon completion of her six-year program, Dr. Lin worked at Beijing Xuan Wu Hospital where she practiced both Western and Chinese medicine, and was trained to treat a broad range of illnesses and diseases, specializing in infertility and pain. Dr. Lin received training from Dr. XiaoPing Ji, an internationally renowned and respected acupuncturist, who practices in China."
How cool is that to have one stop shopping!
I had most of mine back within 24 hours of the workup but the FSH took longer for some reason.
About me: A pixie in the city, 41, TTC#1 since May 2010, married 18 years.
Diagnosed with/surgically removed endometrioma Aug 2010. Sept IUI #1=BFN. Nov IUI #2=BFN. Uterine polyp removed Jan. 2011. Jan 2011 IVF cancelled. No response. 2nd
Thanks Jodi, goddesofgreen, Kristi, Susan and Pix.
Hey, kiddo. Day 3 #'s are *somewhat* helpful, but take them with a grain of salt. What I've read is this:
"Ideal" Day 3 FSH is under 10, but even the most conservative fertility clinics I've researched don't sweat it if you're coming in at under 12. Many women 40+ have higher FSH 3s than these, and many, many, MANY women who end up with happy, healthy BFPs started out with FSH levels far higher than that! (FYI, mine is over ten)
Might wanna check this out! http://www.fertilityplus.org/faq/hormonelevels.html
Not an official endorsement by me, of course, just a suggestion of one place to look.
Did you get your AMH level tested as well? That's one new-ish indicator of ovarian reserve/status that some REs are adding to the mix.
Again, don't be too psyched out by the math! Our reproductive capabilities are more than #s. GL! :)
Just found this on AMH- the message at the bottom- if you grow eggs well , don't worry about the numbers.
AMH Test to Determine FertilityWhat is AMH ?
AMH stands for Anti-Mullerian Hormone. It is also called MIS ( Mullerian Inhibiting Substance) . Since AMH is produced directly by the ovarian follicles, AMH levels correlate with the number of antral follicles in the ovaries . It has been documented that women with lower AMH have lower antral follicular counts and produce a lower number of oocytes compared with women with higher levels.
AMH Reference ranges
AMH levels do not change significantly throughout the menstrual cycle and decrease with age. Healthy women, below 38 years old, with normal follicular status at day 3 of the menstrual cycle, have AMH levels of 2.0 6.8 ng/ml (14.28 48.55 pmol/L). High levels are found in patients with PCOD.
Ovarian Fertility Potential pmol/L ng/mL
Optimal Fertility 28.6 - 48.5 4.0 - 6.8Satisfactory Fertility 15.7 - 28.6 2.2 - 4.0Low Fertility 2.2 - 15.7 0.3 - 2.2Very Low / undetectable 0.0 - 2.2 0.0 - 0.3High Level > 48.5 >6.8 AMH levels do not vary with the menstrual cycle and can be measured independently of the day of the menstrual cycle.
AMH can be used for
1. Evaluating Fertility Potential and ovarian response in IVF Serum AMH levels correlate with the number of early antral follicles. This makes is useful for prediciting your ovarian response in an IVF cycle. Women with low AMH levels are more likely to be poor ovarian responders.
2. Measuring Ovarian Aging Diminished ovarian reserve, is signaled by reduced baseline serum AMH concentrations. Women with poor ovarian reserve who have entered the oopause have low levels of AMH. However, this is a new test, and is still not easily available.
AMH versus FSH
The old standard for ovarian reserve testing was the Day 3 FSH level.
However, the FSH level is not as reliable as the AMH level for 3 reasons.
1. The FSH level varies according to the cycle dates
2. It depends upon the estradiol level ( a high estradiol level will artificially suppress a high abnormal FSH level into the normal range)
3. It varies from cycle to cycle, so is not always reliable or dependable
An AMH level is a much better marker for ovarian reserve. It is much more stable than the FSH level and does not vary from cycle to cycle. Even better, it can be measured on any day of the cycle ! This is why most infertility specialists today use AMH to check ovarian reserve, rather than the old FSH level.
One confusing thing about AMH is that there are at least 2 scales out there and innumerable clinic definitions of what is "normal" - it depends on which assay they use and which study! One scale is ng/ml and one is pmol/l. The pmol/l scale runs from 0 to about 48; the ng/ml runs from about 0-10. On the ng/ml scale , less than 2 ng/ml is considered to be low.
An AMH level can also be very useful for young women who want to postpone childbearing and want to check their fertility. Many women these days are postponing having a baby in order to pursue a career. The good news is that while usually fertility does not decline too much until the age of 32, for some women the decision to postpone childbearing can prove to be one they bitterly regret later on. Fertility does decline as a woman grows older, and the problem is that it is not possible to predict the rate of decline for an individual woman. Most women are lulled into a false sense of security if they have regular period, because they assume that if their periods are regular, this automatically means that their egg quality if enough for them to make babies !
Unfortunately, this is not always true - and for some women, while their egg quality is enough for them to produce enough hormones to get regular periods, it may not be enough to make a baby !
Suppose you are 32 and want to postpone childbearing for another year because you have a very good chance of getting a promotion ? Is it safe to do so ? Or will this be something you will kick yourself for later on when your IVF doctor says - I wish you had come to me earlier ? I'd suggest you get your AMH level tested. If you live in the US, you can get it done at www.mymedlab.com.
If it's low, you might want to re-think your priorities. If it's normal, then it's fine to postpone childbearing, but do get the test repeated every year. If it starts dropping, this is a sign you might want to pay attention to your biological clock before it is too late !
Please do remember that doctors do not treat numbers - we treat patients, so don't obsess over just one number is isolation.
The final proof of the pudding is in the eating - and your response to superovulation is the best way of assessing your ovarian reserve. If you grow eggs well, then you should not worry about your "numbers" !