Going to Houston

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Registered: 05-06-2004
Going to Houston
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Tue, 07-20-2004 - 1:22am
After reading a lot of posts from LIsa (thank you so much), I read The Infertility Cure and Inconceivable.

I am flying today from Cleveland to Houston to see Randine Lewis's partner at the Eastern Harmony Clinic for Acupuncture and Herbs. I am going to be followed up with Randine who wrote the book The Infertility Cure through phone consultations. Since I lost my baby a month ago, I realized how terrified I am now of getting pregnant again. I don't know why we lost him and want to learn how to be as healthy as I can before I try again. I am 40 and don't want to lose months, but I feel I can't bear to lose another children with that loss being my second. The day I get back, I have my first appointment with a RE. I just wanted to be examined by somebody who makes sense to me even if it means flying across the country. Then I can follow the regiment at home and find a local acupuncturist. I just really believe that the Traditional Chinese Medicine makes 100% sense and I just pray that God will help guide me.

All of this is happening with my husband's grandmother now in Hospice and she may pass away at any time. He and my mother both told me that maybe I am just too old. My head has been spinning since then being completely confused to if it is true. It makes me feel so old hearing that and it makes me almost hate myself for waiting so long. But, I know they both love me and my husband is really getting depressed now. He is basically unemployed working part-time at Sears, his grandmother is so ill, he is off anti-depressents that he needs (which being on them probably doesn't help us get pregnant) and I feel like I am in this by myself. I feel that becoming pregnant is a blessing from God and I feel that there is still time. I just want God's blessing and I pray for a safe trip. My mother must just think I am out of my mind doing this trip, but part of it is a business trip for me too. How do I fight the things my family says?

I'll let you know how it goes. Thank you for being there for me.

Mary

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Registered: 11-30-2003
Tue, 07-20-2004 - 9:22pm
Mary: I was very sorry to hear about your husband's grandmother. Hoping that she remains comfortable & out of pain...hospice is very difficult on the entire family.

I was really excited to read your post about going to Houston...wow! I am impressed. You are following your heart...and I applaud you. I will be anxious to hear how the visit goes. Keep us posted. I will pray for a safe trip for you and I hope you obtain helpful information from your visit...take good care.

Margie

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Registered: 07-21-2004
Wed, 07-21-2004 - 10:41am
I'm ready to go to Houston too! Have been reading about chinese medicine, have ordered both the books you mentioned, and have now read every article on the East Harmony website. Will be anxious to know how it goes. When do you leave? How long will you be there?

I'm 44 and have a 7 year old and just had a miscarriage in February. Have been trying ever since with no luck and I'm getting impatient and frustrated. So for the past several days, I've been toying with the idea of going to Houston to get some new input and when I saw your message I became so envious!

Keep us posted.

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Registered: 05-06-2004
Wed, 07-21-2004 - 1:05pm
I feel good about my trip to Houston. I flew there and back in the same day. I didn't sleep the night before so was pretty exhausted. Since acupuncture is all new to me, they were really nice to spend a lot of time with me and went over all the questions I had answered on their forms. She also looked at my husband's answers and I got herbs for both of us. I am vegan and they also were able to give me vegan capsules and herbs. She felt I had deficiences in spleen and kidney. I am following up with Randine who wrote the book, next month. I wanted to get a plan by going there in person and feel I have one. I will have to find a local acupuncturist but at least will have direction from the 'experts.' I need to lose weight and the nicest thing she said was, 'You have done it before, you can do it again.' It was nice to have that confidence. I think we can all do anything we set our mind to, but it is always nice when somebody else believes in you.

I told her that I am not ready to try to conceive right now even though I am 40. I am going to put all my energies into continuing to eat vegan organic, take the vitamins and herbs and exercise again (which I have stopped doing). I just need the motivation. The goal is to be the best I can be and I hope to be able to have another baby. I just can't do it now knowing that my body isn't the best it can be.

Unfortunately, my husband's grandmother passed away last night. I was praying for her the entire day. I was praying on the way home with tears in my eyes. I just felt such a sadness. I asked my husband what time she passed away. It was the same time I felt that on the plane home. With losing our baby last month, my husbands unemployment and now his grandmother, I have great doubts to if he will ever try again to conceive. There is so much hardship in our lives and so much struggle. I still have this feeling of not being inside my body, just floating through each day doing things because I am forcing myself to move forward and take care of myself. I don't think I have his support anymore and I just pray that he will change his feelings.

Thanks for listening.

Mary

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Registered: 07-21-2004
Fri, 07-23-2004 - 11:07am
I am so glad your trip to Houston went well and so sorry to hear about your husband's grandmother's death. You've had an awful lot of loss in this past month and I think it's a good plan to spend time healing and taking care of yourself. I lost my little one in February and I wasn't so wise. I spent the next couple of months eating awfully and drinking caffeine and all the things I wasn't doing when I was pregnant. But I'm back on track now and it really does make you feel better emotionally when you take better care of yourself physically.

Did you actually meet with Randene when you were in Houston? I was on her website and found out about the fertility retreats--they sound amazing but very expensive. Anyone gone to one?

Sarah

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Registered: 05-06-2004
Fri, 07-23-2004 - 2:35pm
Hi Sarah,

Thank you for your letter. I am so sorry for your loss too. It is all so difficult.

I did not meet with Randine in Houston, but am going to be following up with her in phone consultations. There isn't a way for me to afford the retreats also so I felt the next best option that would help me would be to meet with her partner Sahdna. This way Sahnda could see me in person and relay the exam to Randine who would follow up with me. I did not trust myself to just read her book and diagnose myself. I have started exercising again (Taebo) and plan to keep moving in the right direction. My only question now is whether or not to go through with the RE tests, such as a biopsy of the lining, or to just wait and continue with the herbs and test later. I am scheduled to do the biopsy in about 2 weeks. What good will it do me to go through the test and have them tell me something is wrong with the lining when the goal of the herbs is to correct any problems? I am leaning both ways and not sure what to do. That test sounds really horrible and I am not that comfortable taking Clomid for the next test either next month. What do you all think?

Mary

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Registered: 07-27-2004
Tue, 07-27-2004 - 10:56pm
Hi Mary:

Even though I'm new to the board, I feel compelled to respond to your email re: Randine Lewis. She also helped me get pregnant. I now have an 18 month old. When I lived in Houston, I was initially able to get pg on my own once I understood ovulation etc. however, I had a miscarriage when I was 37 and the baby was 10 weeks. Anyway, I was utterly devastated. I was an emotional wreck and was constantly crying. My hubby felt that stress was impacting my ability to conceive. I'm a social worker by profession and had a co-worker who was being treated by Randine for fibroid tumors. Anyway, I looked up her website and for the first time in months I felt very hopeful. When I met with her she was very thorough when conducting her medical evaluation. She was also very caring and empathetic and I found myself pouring out my heart to her. She also had experienced miscarriages before conceiving. Anyway, I had already tried one round of clomid when I came to see Randine so she tailored the accupuncture to help my uterus be more receptive to implantation. I also had read "Inconceivable" and practiced some of the imagery exercises. Anyway, I did another round of clomid this time with intrauterine insemination and hot damn, I was pregnant. Unfortunately, I had cramping from the get go and my RE was out of town. I called RAndine and she told me to hop in my car to come and see her. I was taking some of the herbal supplements so Randine made some adjustments. She also reviewed my lab work, specifically, the progesterone levels and she was amazed at the levels. She gave me alot confidence that this would be a viable pregnancy and it was! I saw her thru my first trimester and then stopped because we moved to Florida. I really feel that she helped us get pg and I thank my lucky stars that I was open to an alternative tx.

I'm now 40 about to turn 41 in Sept. and thinking off ttc for baby #2 but I'm scared to death of the risks for chromosomal abnormalities. I have a healthy beautiful little girl. I don't know if I would be rolling the dice. I meet with my ob/gyn tomorrow to find out what the risks are. Does anyone have any up to date info? Mary, I wish you and all of the ladies on the board the best of luck.

Cindy

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Registered: 07-21-2004
Thu, 07-29-2004 - 7:05pm
I am so interested in working with Randine I wish I could move to Houston! Mary, I think going down there was an awesome thing to do and I may follow your footsteps. I just spoke to my midwife about doing the Clomid Challenge test to see what the condition of my eggs is and she didn't even know what it was. I, of course, did some research and then sent a full description of the test to her but she basically said that since I'm 43 we already know I don't have many eggs and that the ones I do have are not stable. Harumph! I began to relay some of what I'm learning about what Chinese Medicine can do but immediately saw that she wasn't receptive. I feel like I should be seeking out every opinion but then when I hear something like that, I begin to wonder if I should just quit trying. I ordered Randine's book and it arrived today. I may have to stay up all night reading. Maybe it will make me feel hopeful again.

Cindy, you asked about the incidence of disabilities and I couldn't resist answering. That's my field and, because I know so much about disabilities, it's also one of my huge fears. I read somehwere that at 42, our chances of having a baby with a chromosomal disorder is 1 in 7. Pretty high, and that also explains the higher rate of miscarriage in older woman. Personally, I think that the chances are just that, chances. And a baby is more important to than worrying about the what if's. That said, if I were pregnant,I'd worry....sarah