any opk experts? TMI

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any opk experts? TMI
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Tue, 04-17-2007 - 1:09am

I used for the first time an opk kit. Since I have a 29 to 30 day cycle I started on day 12 and it was positive that day. The line was darker than the control line. However I had just stopped bleeding the day before from period. I don't think I had any cm the entire month. We did bd every other day starting before(starting about day 10). I used to have very easy to read cm so I don't understand. Temps went up but more gradual and not really spikey. So I'm guessing I didn't ovulate or something was wrong. Anyone have any ideas?

Also, my periods seem to linger these days. Like blood-tinged cm when they should be done and then no noticeable cm until next af is due. I can tell af is going to happen any minute I'm day 28.

BTW I threw out the opk kit and my thermometer and I'm just going to bd every other day between days 10 and 18. Hopefully doesn't kill my dh. I was making myself crazy kind of like a mad scientist which can't help any.

Anyway, I am working on weaning bf ds a little better to help, too.

I'm still wondering what might have caused all this.

Any insights welcome,
Thanks, Erin

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Wed, 04-18-2007 - 12:09pm

Hi Erin, I just read your post re: OPK's. Last month I broke down and bought the Clearblue Easy Fertility Monitor. I was using the regular OPK's like you but was confused as to when I was actually Oing. The stick would show positive on day 14 and stay that way for four days. I love the monitor because it not only measures your LH but your estrogen as well. Initially you start the sticks on day 6 and continue until it has you stop. It showed my estrogen was up on day 6 and my LH was on days 19 and 20. Only two days this time and much later in my cycle than I thought. We weren't even BDing that late while using the regular sticks. Hope this helps!!!!

Tiffany

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Wed, 04-18-2007 - 10:38pm

Thank you that is helpful.

Okay, I've heard of them. How do they work? They can tell all that from urine? It's been so long since I've had to study any of this. How does the estrogen thing work? etc. Do the LH and estrogen coordinate. I thought estrogen was the beginning of the cycle and progesterone the end.

I read Toni Weschler's book years ago but then read something that only 2 tenths of a degree in temp changes is a thermal shift? It used to be 4 tenths years ago when I did them.

Things have changed and now I'm clueless!!

Thanks,
Erin

PS I also haven't figured out the luteal phases everyone mentions but I started taking B6 just in case. Yikes!!

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Thu, 04-19-2007 - 10:47am
If you go on the clearblue easy website www.clearblueeasy.com they have a tutorial about the monitor and how it works. It is just reassuring to me that my body is still working the way it is supposed to since all of the dr's keep reminding my how "old" I am. I am kind of in a double whammy situation because I am not only over 40 (41 in June) but my new husband (married 7/06) had a vasectomy reversal in 12/06. It is my understanding that when your estrogen level is up it is considered "high" fertility and when combined with your LH surge it becomes "peak" fertility. I am with you regarding not having to worry about this stuff in the past. I have 4 children from a previous marriage and two were conceived on birth control and I have a set of identical twins so go figure now that I am "trying" to get pregnant mother nature isn't cooperating. I also have 2 stepchildren so we are trying for #7. I just figure it will happen when it is supposed to and until then I am eating right, working out, and taking the best care of myself that I can. I was so obsessed in the beginning because I figured I was the exception to the rule about being over 40 but when it didn't happen in the first 2 months I had to reevaluate my position and find a healthier attitude so I didn't drive myself and my family crazy with the baby thing!!!! Good luck with the monitor if you decide to go that route. That is the only thing I am using. I don't temp., chart, check CM or any other things I have read about on here. I don't feel I need to since the monitor tracks everything so precisely.
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Thu, 04-19-2007 - 11:16am

I'm laughing about your descrip of making yourself and everyone else crazy. I agree that I'm not going to do a bunch of stuff. I just have sex every other day regardless and if I knew that my body works I could just relax(I think! I'm a planner). Or if my body worked most of the time. Truth is I got pregnant first time I tried with the last 3 kids and so I think why should this be so different? But, I've read enough to make me worry.

The problem with the bd every other day is if I can't make dh think I'm not "Oh baby I'm so in the mood!" and not just "give me a deposit and I'll leave you alone" which was fine when he was 22 but not 36. It gets hard to make that happen. Fortunately during the time of ovulation I'm more motivated by hormones. Anyway, probably more than you wanted to know about me. I'll be 41 in Sept. But hey, NO ONE ever guesses your age when you walk around with babies. I have a 2 yo!

I'm trying for #5. And I thought I only wanted 2 when we got married!!

Prayers and Baby Dust coming your way, too!!!
Erin

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Thu, 04-19-2007 - 5:21pm

Hi Erin,

Thanks for your reply. It made me laugh as well and we all know we can use some humor during this whole TTC crazyness!!!! I agree with you re: the bd. Luckily we are newlyweds so my dh is willing and able to comply (however, I have quit talking so much about when I am Oing and let him believe I am just extra amorous that night!!!) We sound like we have a lot in common and I look forward to keeping in touch regarding our journey and hopefully real soon a BFP for both of us!!!

Lots of babydust and prayers to you as well!
Tiffany

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Thu, 04-19-2007 - 6:08pm

Sounds great!!! Hopefully, we will be giving intros on an expecting board really soon. It's nice to meet people who have lots in common!

Take care,
Erin

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Thu, 04-19-2007 - 8:19pm


"But hey, NO ONE ever guesses your age when you walk around with babies. I have a 2 yo!"

Well, if you are lucky no one guesses. I am 43 and have 5 children ages 10, 7, 5, 3 and 11 months. I had them all with my at Toys R Us and the clerk said to me, "Oh, is it Grandma's day out with the kids??" AAAHhhh! These are my children thank you! I guess it is time to start coloring my hair. (I really didn't think I looked that old, but I could have slapped that clerk!)

Carol

Carol, mom to 7

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Thu, 04-19-2007 - 8:25pm

I'm no expert, but opk always worked for me. I used the Answer brand with my other pregnancies. This time I tried them again. I got 2 lines on my OPK at 14 days, but no CM until about 17 days. So I have be BD every other day or every day since about 13 days. Now I am at 18 days, so who knows? Apparently my body doesn't quite work the same way it used to. I don't use BBT or anything else to try and predict my O. Peeing on a stick is the easiest thing for me!

Carol

Carol, mom to 7

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Fri, 04-20-2007 - 12:07pm

So if I got a line darker than the control line on day 12 doesn't that mean I ovulated this month? It would just be nice to know that I am still putting the eggs out. It really doesn't change our bd at all which is every other day at least. My temps did go up right before I threw the thermometer away and said enough! This can make you crazy after awhile. I threw out the opk's too. I only used one and it went really positive and then I thought I messed it all up. We did bd day 9, though, because dh was really cute evidently that night. hehe. Thanks for listening to every blessed detail of our sexlife. :)

Erin

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Fri, 04-20-2007 - 12:15pm

I have funny old story, too. Went to the GNC to buy the wheatgrass that someone was talking about on this board. And when I told the woman what it was for she asked me how old I was. When I said 40 she's like "NO!!" Translation: Yeah, 40 is really old!! Then the next thing she says is "Well, you only have so many eggs, ya know."

On the way home I was lamenting to my dh and he stopped me and said you know you have plenty of eggs; that is not going to be a problem. How long have you been nursing? (over a decade) He told me that I have been stockpiling eggs just for this moment. Everyone else was menstruating and I was saving mine for a rainy day!!

So here's to being old together!

Take care, Erin

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