Introduction and Worries

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Registered: 10-02-2006
Introduction and Worries
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Thu, 10-26-2006 - 5:21am

Hello everyone. I am probably the oldest one here on the board, and I guess many would say that I should not be trying at this age. I am 45, but will be 46 in December. My husband and I just married a year and a half ago - first marriage for both of us, and neither of us has any children. I never really thought it would be so difficult to conceive. We just tried naturally for the first year, and when nothing happened, we decided that I best go see a doctor. He did preliminary workup on both of us. Semen analysis was normal for hubby. My progesterone was "a bit low" but he said it might be that we took the test at the wrong time, and he wants to do another one, and if that is still low, then start me on Clomid. I also had an HSG done. The radiologist couldn't get the dye in at all - it was not that it went up so far, and then was blocked - he couldn't get it in at all. So he told my doctor that I should have an MRI done to see if I have a congenital uterine defect! It's always possible I suppose, but I would have thought that I would have had some issues along the way in previous years. Anyway, because of that, we have not yet done the second blood test. I had an MRI today, and am quite nervous about the outcome. In the meantime, I have started charting for the tempuratures. (I cannot tell anything from CM, as I don't ever seem to have any!). I also bought some Ovulation predictor strips, and for the past two days, for the first time, we got two stripes! Now the second stripe was not necessarily more pronounced than the first, but last couple of months when I tried OPK I never got ANY stripes! I am hoping that the Fertility Blend vitamin (with Vitex in it), along with B6, will assist in having a long luteal phase, and give me some progesterone, and am praying that the MRI shows a normal uterus. Your thoughts and prayers would be greatly appreciated. I am a bit worried about using Clomid, becuase of the multiple births, and mostly because of the risk of ovarian cysts and ovarian cancer. I would not mind multiple births if it came naturally, but worry about drug-induced multiple births. We are already concerned about Down's syndrome because of my age. Do you think I am crazy to even try for a child with the Down's syndrome risk involved because of my age? I am wondering if I am peri-menopause, although I have no symptioms of that at all, but just because of the low progesterone level.

mermaidoftheloch

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Registered: 03-28-2003
Fri, 10-27-2006 - 4:52pm

First of all welcome....and no, I don't think you're ever too old to try to fulfill your dreams. My DH and I didn't get married until late. I was 38 he was 40...first marriage for both also. It's a shame that we are punished by age for waiting to find the right one.


First of all, did your OB do a day 3 FSH ? That is one of the ways to see if you are pre-menopausal. As far as Clomid goes, my RE swears there is no increase in cancer from it or any other IF drug. I honestly don't believe him but that hasn't stopped me from trying 6 Clomid rounds and 2 IVFs with tons of drugs.....I guess it all depends on how far you will risk your own body to have your own biological child....I've heard from many that it's worth it :-)


Please keep us updated on your MRI results. I hope that you just had an inept radiologist and that everything is ok. Another thing to consider at your age is donor eggs. I think that's our next step. While it's not my frist choice, i have had 2 m/c and want to be pg again. I can use DE up until I'm 52 (I'm 42 now) so that's along window to keep trying to also get pg naturally.


In addition to Fertility Blend have you considered acupuncture ? It's a wonderful thing for IF.Good Luck,


Keep us posted !

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Registered: 07-29-2003
Fri, 10-27-2006 - 5:17pm

Hi 'Maid,


Welcome, no of course you are not too old, you are the only judge of that.

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Sat, 10-28-2006 - 3:50am

Dear Sarah:

Thank you for your reply. I have not had a CD3 test done yet. The doctor did not mention it, but I believe that after I find the results of the MRI (done Wednesday), that I might actually just seek out an RE, because, although this doctor is not judgemental, and said "let's get you pregnant" I feel that he really might not be the best doctor, after reading all these other tests that people do - the CD3 FSH thing, the ultrasounds, etc. I searched for the Houston area, and saw some really good reports on an RE in my area. Wouldn't you know it, my insurance is changing in January! I expect it will be much the same, but with a different company, I don't know if this doctor will be on the new plan. Anyway, the good news is that while we await results for this and that, I've been TCO my fertility and have been taking all sorts of supplements. Depending on what my outcome is, if we do another blood test, and doctor still recommends Clomid, I am sure that I'll go with it, although it really worries me. As you said...we need to decide what risks we are willing to take to get our child. The only thing that makes me feel better about taking Clomid is that it supposedly increases the chance for a daughter! That is my heart's desire...yes, I know we would be happy with whatever God gives us, but since this will be my only chance most likely (if that even happens) I truly want a daughter, so Clomid might even be to my advantage! Right now it's just the waiting for the right time. We just finished BD'ing like crazy this past week, since it was the right time. I think I wore yhubby out a bit, but I kept telling him - look at the two lines on the ovulation stick!! We HAVE to!!! hahahah! BTW - I LOVE your wedding pictures! You look beautiful!

mermaidoftheloch

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Sat, 10-28-2006 - 3:54am

Dear Emily:

Thanks for your reply. At this point we are still low-tekkie too, although depending on some results, we may choose to get on the Clomid thing. For now, I am doing a lot of natural herbal supplements, to try to get my body to respond to them. With as long as it takes to get the test results back from the doctor, I may be able to exert some influence over this old body by the time they are ready to tell me anything!

mermaidoftheloch

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Registered: 10-15-2006
Mon, 10-30-2006 - 8:47am

First of all, Welcome! I hope you find this board to be as interesting and supportive as I have found it to be. Absolutely, you are not crazy to be thinking about TTC at your age. I mean, here you and hubby have done everything "right"... waiting for marriage until you found the right person... I think it's terrific that you want to try for a child now.

First of all, truly, I don't think you have anything to worry about medically with Clomid. It's been around forever (something like 35 years); numerous studies over that time have confirmed that there is no connection between use of Clomid and later diseases like cancer.

Having said that, however, my sense from reading your post is that you should talk to your RE and make sure that he/she has a plan for you and a limited time to be on Clomid before moving on to something else. I'm not a doctor, but it seems to me that the biggest problem you could face is that it's simply not strong enough to help you get pregnant. My RE told me point-blank that he never "wastes time with Clomid on someone my age (44)," preferring to go straight to injectables or other stronger drugs. I don't have to tell you that time is running low and, in my humble opinion, you need an an RE who is willing to take an aggressive approach. Moving on to more involved procedures (injectables, IVF, etc.) can take more time than you realize.. you have to wait for cycles to start, fight with insurance/ drug companies over coverage, get "preapproved," etc. My point is this: don't let them keep you on Clomid indefinitely!

Good luck and keep us posted.

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Registered: 11-22-2003
Mon, 10-30-2006 - 11:20am
Hello, My name is Robin. I'm also 45 and will be 46 on Dec 7th. I had my first child at 41 and have been trying for #2 for the last 2 years. Last december my doctor did a Clomid challenge test to see how my FSH and other numbers are and they were pretty good except for my progestrone which was a little low. She then had me start a regime of Clomid, Estradiol and progestrone supplements. I got pregnant in April but lost it in June. I went back on the program in July and i'm still on it at least until I go back to see my doctor in november. I haven't had a problem taking Clomid but i'm not sure if i'll continue with it. I read something on another web site about Geritol complete helping with fertilty and i'm not sure if I believe it or not but I started taking it this month. I'll try anything at this point. Best wishes to you. Robin
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Mon, 10-30-2006 - 11:54am

Dear Mermaid,


I am 45 years old and we are trying to conceive number 4. Most people think I'm crazy, but not because of my age, but because I have three boys ages: 24yrs, 21yrs and 18yrs. I also have a two year old grandson. Whoever made the first comment that we are too old at our age should have kept their mouth shut. People always mistake me for someone in my middle 20's, so with that who needs to know my age. Look at Sarah in the bible. I'm with Sarah, if she can have one late in life then so can I. I'm believing for a miracle and will believe for one for you too. Lots of baby dust. Don't give up hope. Look forward to seeing you on the Preggo board. Lots of prayers and positive thoughts to you and your DH.

Gates Roberts TTC @ 45



Gates Roberts TTC @ 46 soon to be 47 in July.

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Registered: 09-20-2006
Mon, 10-30-2006 - 5:00pm

First of all, I have to say it --- YOU ARE NOT CRAZY!!!!

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Mon, 10-30-2006 - 10:07pm

Thank you, wmom. I am pretty sure that our insurance will not cover anything regarding infertility, but we have been able to get my preliminary tests done. Yes, I think you're right about needing the aggressive approach. Thank you for your comments regarding Clomid. It still worries me, because I don't want to get ovarian cancer and then not be here for my child! But after reading of so amany women on these boards who have nothing worse than a few unpleasant side effects, I can handle that! Anyway, I am currently waiting to see what the MRI says - the doctor did not call today!

mermaidoftheloch

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Mon, 10-30-2006 - 10:25pm

Dear Robin:

I can't believe it! We are EXACTLY the same age! My birthday is also December 7th, and I will be turning 46. Due to trying for a baby, the birthdays to remind me of age are not really welcomed - until I remember my dear, dear friend, who died of AIDS, and he always told me that getting older is better than the alternative, and he welcomed each birthday with gusto. Anyway, I am so sorry for your loss. I am happy to hear that you are still trying, and you are inspiring me, because I think it's great that your first one was not until you were 41, and now that second one is in the making! I've read a lot about herbs and supplements, and I know that B6 is supposed to help with strengthening the uterine lining. Also, raspberry leaf tea is supposed to do the same thing. With the tea, if you were to become pregnant, you are supposed to stop taking it at the onset of pregnancy, but in the last trimester, start taking it again to strengthen the lining again before childbirth. I am not sure why they don't want you to take it in the early stages. I have also heard that CoQ10 is good, and L-Argintine, but I have not gotten either of those yet. I've also been on Fertility Blend vitamins, which have green tea and vitex (also known as chaste berry), and both green tea and vitex are supposed to be aids in fertility. I know I will need to stop that vitamin if I do go on Clomid, because Clomid and Vitex do not mix. Sort of like you, I will try anything, even if it sounds mad! You would not believe the "lotions and potions" we have tried! We even did the turkey baster last week! Haha! That was rather funny! Anyway, my best to you, my birthday twin, and I pray for loads of sticky baby dust coming your way. Wouldn't it be cool if we conceived at the same time?!

mermaidoftheloch

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