Sandy - I think it is too early for CIO and I also think your Dr saying he should be sleeping 12 hours a night is ridiculous. My pediatrician told us to count our lucky stars my son sleeps 7-10 hours a night and he is 5 months old. I won't say anything else on the matter as it is your choice, but neither me nor Rob have ever used CIO and Jensen sleeps great. My sister used CIO and her daughter only sleeps 5-6 hours and she is 1 1/2. So I think it all depends on the baby.
Mariana - Fede is so cute! Yay for a good Drs appointment!
Ella - Yay for Eliza's progress in the car seat!!
Cara - Yay for good sleeping and tons of grow baby vibes for you!
AFM - I realized I forgot to post here how Jensen's very late 4 month check up was (he got it at 4 months 3 weeks because his pediatrician was on vacation).
So Jensen now knows his doctor's office. He was NOT a happy baby. The minute we got into the back room he started to hyperventilate. The minute he saw the nurse he burst into tears. She was really sweet about it and told me he was the cutest baby she had seen all day and she just loved his red hair. So she let me handle weighing him, 15 lbs 8 oz! Then we got his other measurements. 26 1/2 inches long, and a head circumference of 16 inches. Then the his Dr came in and Jensen gave him the same tears and screaming routine, and would instantly settle down once handed to me. Me and the Dr talked a little bit about what has been going on with him, what his milestones are, etc. Then the Dr said "Now a lot of people ask about solids at this time. I really recommend that you wait on solids until at LEAST 5 months, but 6 is even better. He is growing great and I don't see a need for it", but he said it in a way like I don't want to offend you and if you fight me on it I am gonna give in because I would like to avoid conflict lol. To which I responded "We would like to wait until 6 months, I want him to be my little baby awhile longer", and he seemed relieved and went on to say "Yeah, exactly. He is growing great, 90th percentile for height and 50th for weight, so there is no need". Then he suggested that when we do start solids we start on rice cereal for 6-10 days, see how he does on that, and then start whatever the heck we want. He said there is no difference between fruits and veggies and it's an old wives tale that if you give them fruit first they will get a sweet tooth. He says if you taste baby food some of the vegetables are just as sweet as the fruit anyway. Then he said Jensen would be getting his 2nd dose of vaccines today and said I could give him tylenol so I gave him our bottle and asked him to show me exactly how much to give, so he wants me to give one full dose, and another half dose. Jensen has only ever had half doses so I told Rob we can move up to a full dose but no more then that because I don't want to drug him when he is not used to it. Jensen actually did better with the shots then with the exams. He didn't notice the needle going in until he looked down and saw it and then the screaming started but as soon as she was done and the bandaids were on and he got some kisses from mama he stopped crying. I even got a smile out of him before we left. His next appointment is July 19th!
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Ash - LOL...you are correct that my DH would probably appreciate how little Selin cries after spending time with colicky babies!
Adrienne - I could totally see you having a "Brady Bunch"! I would love to have 4 kids but I'll be lucky if at this point I could get DH to agree to 2 or 3.
Cara - Hope Tenley's checkup went well!
Amy - Hope you'll be able to get the BW soon! Poor Jensen at the doc's office! Glad to hear he is doing so well though!
Julie - The exhaust fan is our friend, too. We even had to use it while we were in Canada and my relatives were amazed at how well it worked with calming Selin down. LOL
Sandy - Thanks for sharing David's 6 mo pics - he is so handsome! I hope you'll find something that works re: the sleep issues. Selin sleeps anywhere from 8-10 hours at night.
Mari - Fede is adorable as always. Do I see a red head? :-)
Ella - I cannot believe Eliza is 7 months old!! Before you know it, you'll be celebrating her 1st bday! That is awesome that she is tolerating her car seat better and *gasp*, even falling asleep in it!
AFM - Feeling a bit down at the moment. Things were going better with DH and I but tonight he lost his temper and we got in a fight. We both already had appts lined up with our therapists tomorrow (they're actually in the same group) so I hope we'll both get some much-needed advice. I really want to go to couples therapy but DH doesn't want to think about it until after he's back from his military service overseas (he leaves in 2 weeks). I think the break is really going to do us good. We've both been stressed with family and work issues and for him, when Selin cries really bad it just puts him over the edge whereas I'm able to keep a cool head and soothe her. I'm also having a lot of anxiety about giving Selin bottles (I haven't been pushing them but my mom and MIL keep telling me I should otherwise she won't take one when I go back to work) and the whole going back to work issue in general. Still no word from my boss and no luck on any of the jobs I applied to. Right now I feel like Selin is the only positive thing in my life. If it wasn't for her, I don't know how I would get through each day right now.
Christine- Big hugs!!! I hope things improve soon:)
Sandy- I forgot to add that STTN is only considered 5-8 hours at David's age-not 12! The book your doctor recommended also says that some babies may need 1-2 feedings in the night until over 10 months so you may want to check it out from your library and see what you think.
Ella- 7 months wow!!!! Time really is flying, I'm glad she enjoyed swimming:)
Cara- That is great that Tenley is sometimes sleeping in the swing now and that she still sleeps so well at night.
Amy-I'm glad Jensens appt went so well!
AFM- I can't believe we are almost at 3 months! Teddy is so adorable if I do say so myself LOL. He cries much less now and is so interested in everything- white walls are his favorite :P He also will just start grinning at random things and whenever Thomas picks him up he gets a huge smile on his face! He is probably about 16 pounds now, his next appt is in the beginning of July and then we will know for sure. His legs look like fat hams so I am guessing he will still be at 95% for weight LOL. He also love loves standing (with help obviously but he always tries to push himself up if there is anything for his feet to push against) and is so strong!
Sleep is still a huge issue for us though and it is really starting to wear on me as in the past 10 and a half weeks I have never gotten more then three hours of sleep at a time and the average is 2. I am doing everything I can at this point to help with sleep; routine, trying to do lots of naps throughout the day so he doesn't get overtired, etc but nothing works it is so frustrating to read about so many babies who naturally are doing 5+ hour stretches at this point and much earlier. I would kill for a 5 hour stretch of sleep:( He has about a week to learn and then he gets to be part of the special 10% of babies who aren't sleeping at least one longer stretch by 12 weeks. As of now I am guessing he will be part of the 10% LOL. Plus he not only sleeps for short stretches it takes forever to get him to go down and stay asleep. I've spent 4-5 hours the past few nights trying to get him to go down until finally giving up which means his bedtime is midnight with us, which is ridiculous but so is spending an hour to get him to sleep just to have him wake up 5-10 minutes later.
We stay really busy though as it helps for me to not notice the exhaustion. We'll be going away to the mountains for a little 3 day weekend this Sat and the world cup starts on Friday which is a super super big deal here in Germany and pretty much every country besides the States LOL. That lasts a month so we'll be out a lot for that.
Here are a few pics from recently. We had a BBQ with friends at the park last Sat and also took Teddy into a little wading pond they had there- he was completely unimpressed as always LOL.
We tried the CIO yesterday and he was asleep within 30 minutes. He slept from about 845pm to 345am. I fed him until about 415 and put him back to bed. He cried about 5 minutes and fell back asleep. He slept until 600am. Then I put him down for his nap at 845. He cried 20 min and slept until 1015. So I think it is working. My one friend said they did sleep training at 5 months (the same thing we're doing) and her 2 year old now puts himself to sleep and doesn't cry unless he's sick or something is wrong. I would be happy with 7 or 8 hrs a night. I also will try and get him to eat more during the day so that way he will sleep longer and won't be as hungry. He always eats a lot before bed so we'll keep doing that. I agree that he probably still needs to get up at least once but he was doing it twice and even one night three times so that is a bit excessive. However he should be sleeping through the night. I think once he gets used to it he will be able to put himself to sleep and it will be so much easier.
I also think we may eliminate one nap and give him 1 one hour and then 1 2 hour nap and my friend said don't let him sleep after 4pm. So we'll give that a try. I know he needs his morning nap and maybe have him nap in the afternoon around 2 so he does 2 to 4. That way I can still get a nap after I get off work at 230 if I need to. That could be the other reason he's not sleeping well as he's sleeping too late for his naps.
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Wow that sounds great Sandy! I have heard that you should always eliminate the latest nap as that is when sleep tends to be the worst and if a day goes by where David sleeps poorly to make bedtime earlier as long stretches of night sleep are the best for little ones.
I am sure you will continue to see improvement and that soon David will be going to sleep on his own with no tears at all!
Aww Christine I am so sorry you are feeling down! I think it is definitely a good idea to talk to your therapist, and also, be aware of possible PPD--I think that the amount you are worrying about some of these things may be a sign of things going too far, KWIM? I would definitely bring up all your feelings to your therapist--maybe more regular therapy and/or meds might help you get through this spell. (((HUGS)))) You are a great Mom and wife and all of this stuff will work itself out.
I remember Ella saying Eliza would never take a bottle, but low and behold when her and her DH were gone and she had no other choice, she did. Babies are very adaptable and your caretaker (MIL?) can handle a fussy baby if there is a few days of transition.
Try to focus on each day and not obsess about the things you can't control, especially those in the future. (((HUGS))) You'll get through this.
Ash, such cute pics!! I am so so sorry that Teddy is having such a hard time sleeping--I got a TINY glimpse into how difficult it is because of complications with our cat where we had to feed him through a tube for several days at midnight, 6 am, and 9 am. After a few days I started to feel really tired and fuzzy and I was STILL getting plenty of sleep, and sleeping for 5-6 hour stretch, but the rest of the sleep being interrupted really got to me.
So I can ONLY imagine where you are at mentally/physically/everything. The fact that you are still a happy and cheerful loving Mommy blows me away--you are my hero!!
Anyway, hopefully he will start to sleep longer stretches soon. Like NOW!! LOL! KUP girl!
Thanks Adrienne! Today is rough but I am sure tomorrow will be better:) I know in my heart that he will start sleeping a longer stretch in the next month and that I just have to be patient, it is just hard sometimes as I am really running on empty and never have the chance to catch up on sleep. Even though I try to take at least one nap with him I think I really need just a good long stretch.
But don't worry the chances of having a baby like mine are so slim I am sure that after all you have been through you will have such a lovely easy baby who sleeps 5 hour stretches right from the start!
Hahah, well Teddy is certainly on the extreme of the sleep issues--odds are we won't have another quite like him in a long time!
Anyway I'm not holding my breath--like others have said I am just going to start out with the expectation that he will wake several times a night for at least the first year (maybe two), so if he HAPPENS to sleep through the night before that, I will just be pleasantly surprised, LOL!