CIO Help.

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Registered: 02-26-2008
CIO Help.
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Tue, 01-04-2011 - 1:51pm

Ladies - I mentioned in my January Checkin we are doing CIO starting this week, but I have a few questions, because as I am reading these books (Healthy Sleep Habits, Happy Child and Happiest Baby on the block) I am wondering what to do with our situation.

I don't have a problem getting her to sleep anymore (Thats what we had when she was 1 to 2 months old) now my problem is getting her to stay asleep for longer than 1 or 2 hours at a time.

Sunday night this was our schedule: Fed Her, Changed her, rocked her (read her a story) put her down around 9:00 (it was later because our IL's were over and her schedule got thrown off,which might be why the night was so awful). She slept for about 1 hour 15 minutes. I went into her room put her pacifier back into her mouth and put my hand on her chest and shushed her back to sleep. She then slept until 1. I fed her changed her and got her back to sleep within a 1/2 hour. She slept until 2:15. I tried to soothe her back to sleep but she wanted to eat again, so I fed her and put her down again. She was then up at 3:30, but not hungry just up. DH picked her up and rocked her and got her down and put her into her swing and she slept until 7.

Last night I tried this new thing where I took a sheet and rolled it up in a long tube and put it in a U shape and put it under the crib sheet - like a sleep positioner. It seemed to work. We had our bed time routine with a bath thrown in there. She fed at 5:30 and I gave her a bath at 6:30 and she was out by 7 which is really early for her - but it might have been because she didn't sleep well the night before. I put her down and she slept there with 2 little squeaks until midnight. I fed her and got her back down in 25 minutes. She slept until 3 and then was hungry again, so repeated our routine, again I had her down in 20 to 25 minutes. She then slept until 5:30 where I got her up and we started our day.

My question is where in the above scenario (if at all) would I do CIO? I know on the Sunday scenario it would have probably been at the 2:15 time or the 3:30 time but then how do I know that she doesn't have a wet diaper without waking her up? if she cries longer than 5 or 10 minutes then do I check her?

With the other scenario that we had last night, would I even do CIO? she seems like she would be hungry at those times so I don't know if it would make sense. or would I do it at the 3:00 and see if she put herself back to sleep and if she doesn't then go in and feed her? and same with it at 5:30.

I know she came make it the entire night without a feeding. When she is in her swing she can sleep from 7:30 or 8 to 5am. and she did that twice last week, so this is where my confusion comes from. It's so hard to know if it's because she is teething or going through a growth spurt or what. a friend suggested getting Humphreys Teething strips to give her at night, but I don't know anything about them and if I should or not...I know I am probably over thinking this and I really want you to know that it's not like I mind getting up in the middle of the night because I don't. I am okay with one or two times a night, but it's the every hour that wears me down.


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Registered: 10-11-2005
Mon, 01-10-2011 - 10:10am
Honestly 4/5 months is a normal sleep regression time. They are starting to figure out a ton of new things and that can cause them to have interrupted sleep patterns. Plus she may have started teething, both mine had their first teeth around that time, and teething hurts, especially when you have no clue what is happening!



Thank you for the sig Mary

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Registered: 02-26-2008
Mon, 01-10-2011 - 3:32am
Well it was "fixed" for exactly 5 days. Saturday night and tonight were awful. It makes me wonder if her sleep at her naps at home is what is causing the problem. Saturday she actually napped really well. 1 1/2 hours in the morning from 9 to 10:30. Playtime until noon. And then 2 hours or so nap. She was up then until 4:45. Slept 44 minutes. I got her down by 6:45. She slept until 11:39. Then 1:30 and then was up every hour. I let her cry longer than normal. And one or two times I just out her nuk back in.

Today was a different story. She was up early so her morning nap was early. She fell asleep in the car at 11:30. I kept her in the seat and she slept for 44 minutes. I fed get and got her down for another hour. She was then up to play. An hour later she fell asleep in my arms and we both slept until 4:15 or so. I got her down with a struggle at 7:39 after an hour of trying. She slept until 9:39 and has been up every hour. No temp. I tried not swaddling, swaddling one arm and now she is finally content in my arms not swaddled.

I am getting so frustrated.

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Registered: 08-04-2003
Thu, 01-06-2011 - 7:04pm

Here's some "old mom advice".... the things you do know will stick with you, developing a good bedtime routine and a

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Registered: 11-27-2007
Thu, 01-06-2011 - 3:40pm

I totally agree w/ the others. Our bedroom is upstairs and the twins are downstairs, so even now when they cry out, most of the time by the time we even go down the stairs, they've stopped. It definitely doesn't hurt to stay in bed for 5 minutes (which still feels like an eternity) before going to respond, plus you fall back asleep easier if she does go back to sleep on her own ;)

We also had a solid bedtime routine that was low-key and took about half an hour to do. We'd do bath every other night. Every night, we'd do a bottle or sippy cup of warm milk or formula (based on age), then new diaper, lotion, pjs, bedtime story, cuddles, and singing before laying down awake. I always tried to keep the feeding to the beginning of the routine so that they didn't learn to fall asleep while eating.

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Registered: 09-12-2008
Wed, 01-05-2011 - 8:53pm
Jess,

No advice on CIO since we don't do it but I totally think she might need to go to bed earlier. Selin used to get tired around 8:00 and when DH was gone this summer, she bumped herself up to 7:00. Now we start her routine around 6:30-7:00 and she is asleep by 8:00 (I nurse her to sleep).

We no longer go out during the week later than 5 or 5:30 because she starts getting fussy by 6:00. For us it was not a big deal because we'd rather eat home in peace than have her melt down at a restaurant.

We did do swaddling for the first few months but she's never had a paci because I'd rather her be able to selfsoothe.

Oh and Brita's suggestion works wonders! I've been waiting when she first cries for a few months now and 90% of the time, she stops crying after a few seconds and falls back to sleep.

GL!!

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Registered: 03-19-2007
Tue, 01-04-2011 - 11:34pm
Jess,
We never really did CIO at bedtime with Barrett, but we did transition him from being rocked to sleep to falling asleep on his own. The advice I read mainly said that they need to be able to fall asleep on their own before you can expect them to fall back asleep in the middle of the night. So you might want to start there. With Barrett we would lay him down in the crib and rub his back until he fell asleep and cut back on how much soothing we did until he fell asleep on his own.

For the middle of the night stuff, I think last night sounds like a good night - just because a baby can go without eating one night doesn't mean he/she isn't hungry the other nights. I'd concentrate on getting rid of the extra wakings when she is not hungry. Barrett had a horrendous sleep regression at 3 months, and the every hour thing is soooo exhausting! One or two times is definitely doable.

One more thought, I used to jump to get to Barrett as soon as he started crying, but I have since learned that if I wait five minutes he might just get himself back to sleep.
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Tue, 01-04-2011 - 10:09pm

Jess,

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Registered: 02-26-2008
Tue, 01-04-2011 - 4:23pm

Thanks ladies! We stopped swaddling her legs months ago - mostly because the swaddle things we had became too small, so I have just been doing a sleep sack wtih the velcro halo fleece swaddle thing around her arms....and now that's getting to the point where it won't stay shut.

I think the biggest thing for us will be putting her down awake, but we will see how tonight goes. We have started putting her down closer to 7 or 7:30 except on a few nights when we are out. I did tell DH that we had to make sure we were home more that her schedule is more important than us going out. That's going to be rough with him I think. But then again he never puts her to bed, it's always me.


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Tue, 01-04-2011 - 4:16pm

When I did CIO w/ DS I showered during the crying spells.

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Tue, 01-04-2011 - 4:11pm

Oh also. Best piece of advice we ever got was from our pediatrician. He said babies naturally want to go to sleep between 6:30pm and 7:30pm. We were putting them down at 10pm and they'd wake up at 2am to eat (and 5am and 7am). That night we put them down at 7:30pm and they still slept straight through til 2am! It was a miracle, really. We started going to bed at 8pm too. It eventually got to the point (especially when we went from 3 naps a day to 2) where they were so tired by 6:30 that we had to put them down for the night. Even now, they still go to bed at 7:30pm.

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