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Wed, 03-17-2010 - 7:30am

I have noticed my baby is eating constantly. Last night I had to feed him for 1 hr before he would go to bed then 3 hrs later he was up again and I fed him another hour, gave him a bottle and then another hour after that. I think my breasts were totally empty and I had to give him formula.

I know one of my friends put it in her baby’s bottle and she said she put it in very liquidy and did it that way. I remember reading starting cereal at 4 months, but he is about 3 ½ months now and maybe he is ready. I just feel like he isn’t getting enough. I did call my doctor and haven’t heard anything yet so we’ll see what she suggests. Before this my baby was sleeping at least 6 hours a night sometimes even 7 or 8. However, I have read about not putting the cereal in the bottle so I am confused on what to do. Maybe I should just give him a bottle before bedtime. He is eating about 6oz in a bottle per feeding.

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Fri, 03-19-2010 - 1:39pm

Well I talked to a lactation consultant and she suggested oatmeal and there is some kind of tea so I may try that. She said you can get it at Babies R Us. The reason I was pumping is b/c he is falling asleep at night so she gave me some breastfeeding advice as well to hopefully keep him eating and not sleeping. I don't want it to become a habit as he becomes older.

I haven't gotten AF as of yet, I did have some spotting when I first started the mini pill but my supply hasn't been any different since on the mini pill so I don't think that caused it. Plus, I've been on it over a month now. I think if I would have had issues, it would have been right away. I just think I can only pump so much and I have more actually because after pumping I sometimes feel like I have some left and I am not completely empty. I have been trying to pump today ever 3 hrs that is normally how often I feed. Of course I will have an issue this afternoon/evening as I am going out from about 3-6 so we'll see what happens. I will most likely feed him when I get back.

She also suggested while bottle feeding to use a smaller nipple b/c maybe he is getting lazy as the bottle is easier and he has to work harder for the breast and why he is falling asleep. She also suggested 5oz instead of 6 that maybe he is full but doesn't realize it until later since he is gulping when he bottle feeds. So, I am going to try all those things and see what happens.

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Fri, 03-19-2010 - 1:13pm

Another thing to note, is that how much you pump is not an indication of how much you produce, some women can't pump at all, but produce more then enough milk for their babies to exclusively nurse, some women never get more then an ounce or two from each side every time they pump, but also produce more then enough milk, then there are the people like me who can pump 10 ounces at a time on occasion and never have an issue with nursing either (I know the amount of milk I can pump is high, it normally stabilizes to less then 5 ounces at a time after 6 months or so, though at the moment I have no clue how much I could pump because I haven't in over 6 months).

Here is an article about it from KellyMom ( http://www.kellymom.com/bf/supply/low-supply.html )

All of Grace's advice is great as well.






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Fri, 03-19-2010 - 11:37am

Hey Sandy,

We're going through similar issues with milk supply. So far to increase milk supply I have been eating more oatmeal, taking a supplement called "more milk plus" (it's combo of blessed thistle and fenugreek) drinking more water (most important I think) and pumping after every feeding. The lactation consultant I talked to said you should pump for 10-15 minutes after every feeding for 48 hours, even if nothing is coming out, because that will signal to your breasts to make more milk.

Honestly though the thing that has made the biggest difference in my milk supply is when James started waking up for an extra feeding in the middle of the night. It's hard to keep up a strong milk supply if your baby is sleeping all the way through. Allowing David to wake during the night would probably help you milk supply. Dr.'s all seem to believe that babies are ready to STTN at 4 months, but I don't necessarily believe that, I think it's based on FF'd babies as formula takes so much longer to digest. James is almost 10 months old, and while he typically STTN it seems like when he's going through a period of growing he really needs to wake up that extra time during the night. No amount of feeding him solids or extra bottles before bed has seemed to make any difference on that. Honestly being up one time in the night is not a big deal to me at all, I usually wake up once to go to the bathroom or something anyway... If you really want David to be sleeping through, you might consider getting up once to pump, although that is way more of a pita in my opinion. Good luck with everything!

Is it possible AF is coming back for you? My milk supply always dips right before I get AF.

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Fri, 03-19-2010 - 9:12am
OK. I was wondering about that. IT seems that when I pump my breasts never fully empty but then I can't get a ton of milk out there. I normally pump between about 3-5 oz per pumping and am afraid to breastfeed as I am worried I won't have any milk left to pump and then I end up supplementing with formula which I don't want to do but I don't have enough milk for bottles at night. Also it seems my right breast I get a ton of milk and my left I hardly get an ounce anymore. Is there anything I can do to get my supply up so I can pump more and get more out so I don't have to supplement?
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Thu, 03-18-2010 - 2:49pm
If you just want to pump to give him a bottle before bed, pump after nursing. It might take 2 or 3 pumps, but he'll nurse a bunch and then you can pump a few ounces and have a bottle ready for him at bedtime. It also should stimulate your supply to make more so that you might be able to drop the bottle again as he gets more full from nursing.





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Thu, 03-18-2010 - 1:30pm
Well I guess I forgot to mention that I work at home so I am able to pump every 2-3 hours. I am not used to pumping that much so today it seems I can never get empty. I do still want to breastfeed and not exclusively pump, however I definately want to pump and give him a bottle before bed to make sure he is full.
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Thu, 03-18-2010 - 11:59am

I agree with Mari. Sometimes no matter what you do the supply doesn't always watch up to the demand. You can't have a baby nursing 24/7 that will make you sore and is really difficult to do if you are a mamma working outside of the home. I did everything and my supply never even started to catch up with what Simon is demanding.


I have had people make comments about putting cerial in Simon's bottle since he was 5 weeks old. I don't think its the calories its that the cerial is a larger cell and will make him feel fuller. I have not used it though.


Sandy I am glad that you talked to your OB and have a plan of action figured out for family. Keep up the good work. :)


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Thu, 03-18-2010 - 6:52am

I talked to my dr directly this time and this is what she advised:
She wants him to start cereal at 5 months. So she said he is just probably really hungry. She said could be a growth spurt but normally they only last a few days. I told her he falls asleep breastfeeding so she suggested feed 15 min on one and then 15 on the other and that should be more than enough. I feel empty sometimes but they say you are never really empty. She also suggested giving him a bottle as well if he is still hungry. I am going start pumping and not breastfeed as much she thinks he is using it as comfort rather than food and that is why he is falling asleep. She said he shouldn't be doing that at 3 months.

She said also he needs to learn to self soothe and put him in his crib for bed and if he cries that is ok b/c he needs to learn to fall asleep on his own. She said if he is fed he will learn to fall asleep. So I think those are the major issues and hopefully we can get back to hm sleeping through the night. Of course yesterday he had almost no naps. He did sleep from 8:30 to 4:30 this morning and I fed him 6oz of breastmilk and he was still hungry so I fed him a little more and then he fell asleep.

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Wed, 03-17-2010 - 1:42pm

Sandy, have you tried nursing him and then adding a nice bottle of formula?
My Fede also a hungry baby, and I've noticed that by night my breasts produce less milk, so I need to supplement if I want to sleep!

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It doesn't always work like magic..... For instance, I have one breast that produces more milk than the other; I've tried everything on the "lazy" breast, putting the baby first on that one, nursing longer... it just refuses to produce the same amount as the other. Same thing with night feedings. It's like my breasts are saying "give us a break!!". I have enough milk to calm him down, but after an hour or so, he's hungry again. Not to mention that a baby could really hurt your nipples if he gets nervous sucking an empty breast. Others, like mine, realize very quickly that there is no more milk and proceed to spit the nipple and scream in righteous anger!!

But I agree with the rest. Breast milk or Formula, that's the only food a baby should have for a little longer.

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Wed, 03-17-2010 - 12:29pm
Most of my friends I have talked to have started cereal at 4 months so it isn't like I am starting that much earlier. I think it is worth a try and if he doesn't take it then I will wait until he is 4 months. I know at my last visit she did say that he could start on solids at 4 months. I know several people at my dh's work as well as my mother in law also said they gave cereal at 4 months.
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