Sleep Issues....

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Sleep Issues....
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Mon, 01-31-2011 - 7:34pm

Any help would be appreciated!!

Since December Maxim has had a few sleep issues.

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Registered: 04-22-2006
Mon, 01-31-2011 - 9:27pm
Ugh...sorry Ruby. It all sounds so frustrating! I'm obviously not BTDT, but could he be going through separation anxiety? I thought that happens at about 8-9 months.

For the naps, maybe he's just not a long napper? A friend of mine has a little girl who's about 9 months and she does the exact same thing - has two naps a day for about 45 minutes.

Anyway, I'm sure BTDTs have more advice, but I just wanted to give you some (((hugs))).




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Mon, 01-31-2011 - 10:20pm
Yeah I've accepted the nap thing....I just threw that in there so people would know what his daytime pattern is and if it is an issue for the night stuff. Really though, if it is, then we're screwed because NOTHING has worked to fix the nap issue.

I do think its a bit of separation anxiety...poor baby :( I'm flattered and all, but damn we need our sleep too, lol, and I am NOT bringing him to bed. I'll stay up first

Thanks for the hugs!!

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Registered: 08-04-2003
Mon, 01-31-2011 - 10:27pm

What time is he getting up in the morning?

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Mon, 01-31-2011 - 10:51pm
He gets up between 7:30 and 8:00 most mornings. Here is is usual schedule:

Up at 7:30 to 8
Nurse, play
Nap between 9:30 and 10:00
Nap...maybe an hour, maybe 2
Eat, play for 2 hours
Nap again....
Bedtime routine starts around 5:30
Food, bath, nurse, bed

So maybe he gets 14-15 hours a day of sleep total. He gets up once at night to nurse, usually around 5am.

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Tue, 02-01-2011 - 6:11am
It might be an ear infection. I don't know if ge has had then before but Gabby didn't really show any signs at all. She was a super happy baby all day long and then she wouldn't sleep at night. Turned out in our case she had a double ear infection.

I don't have any advice since I am dealing with a little one who won't seep either. GL

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Registered: 12-23-2003
Tue, 02-01-2011 - 8:36am

If Maxim knows how to fall back asleep on his own then I would assume it is just the terrible 9 month sleep regression. This time really sucked for us as we went from just getting 12 hour stretches at night and 2 good naps to 1-3 wake ups a night. Some of it was due to teething but mainly I think there was just so much happening in terms of what Teddy was learning that his brain wouldn't shut off. Right around 10 months he went back to sleeping great and we didn't change anything so I am pretty sure it was developmental and there was nothing we could do but just accept it...

But you also say this has been going on since Dec which makes me think there might be more to it. As babies get older they tend to need less help from us to fall asleep- it could be the long cuddling session with him is just getting him more amped up because he knows exactly what is coming, and he doesn't want to go to sleep he wants to play! :) You might try for just a night or two keeping the routine short and sweet and see how he reacts. Our bedtime routine is very short- lights out, darkening shade down, pacifier in, rocking for a few seconds, maybe twinkle twinkle, lay him down, and Theo almost always falls asleep within a minute or two.

Also if you are dealing with a short nap day you might try putting him to sleep even earlier as he is probably overtired by the time 7 or 7:30 rolls around.

Can Maxim roll over? As I think this nightly waking up is becoming a habit for him and he should be able to roll over and put himself back to sleep- but of course much prefers a little attention from mommy and daddy. However like I said at around 9 months and then for about 2-3 weeks we had nightly wake ups quite often and besides sticking to our normal back to bed plan (wait 5 minutes, then 10) I don't think anything we did really affected it much and we just had to stick it. So it could be that nothing you do could help which of course really sucks but does take away a little of the guesswork.

Sorry if this doesn't make too much sense I am sick and a bit fuzzy right now but wanted to let you know I've been there:)

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Tue, 02-01-2011 - 8:44am
Yeah I think the cuddling til falling asleep with Grandma started it all and it has had worse consequences than I anticipated at the time. I tried putting him to bed the other night with a short routine and he screamed his head off, had big tears and it was like a baby panic attack.

Maxim does roll over but he doesnt do a very good job of rolling back...he often throws his soother out of the crib or it falls out and he isnt a thumb/finger sucker. Usually I wait a bit to see if he'll go back on his own and then go back in, roll him over and give him his paci. Normally this works very well. The only hard wake-up is the 11pm one...that is the one where he is inconsolable and does not self-soothe to get himself back. CIO doesnt seem to work either, he just gets more and more worked up.

Thanks Ash for the suggestions and for commiserating...I'm glad it reversed itself for you and Teddy, DH feels very hopeless. He keeps saying, isnt he supposed to sleep better, not worse?? Ugh...yes dear, but....

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Registered: 12-23-2003
Tue, 02-01-2011 - 8:54am
I would go in right away at the 11pm wake up if you feel like he isn't calming down for that one. Pick him up, do whatever you need to do to get him calm and sleepy, and then lay him back down.

If Maxim throws his pacifier out (Teddy does the same) then he doesn't need it to sleep. If it isn't this hard 11pm wake up I would try and wait 10 minutes first before going in and see if he goes back to sleep alone. As they get older these interventions from us turn more and more into something they want and will wake themselves up for but you will know it because he will be bright eyed, awake and happy while you are there and then instantly start crying when you leave, in which case I would stop talking if you are talking to him while going in, would leave all lights off, and basically make it as boring as humanly possible when you go in to comfort him. Also try and go for shorter and shorter amounts of time- while still staying long enough to get him calm.

At 9 months Teddy also started waking up and playing in his bed for an hour or so and from what I found there is nothing you can do to combat that.
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Tue, 02-01-2011 - 10:02am
Just a quick note about the crying thing (when to see if they'll calm down and when to go right to them), there are two great blog posts on Ask Moxie about this. She talks about Tension Increasers and Tension Decreasers. Basically, the first babies are those who get worse and worse if you let them cry, and the others actually use crying to decrease their tension and put themselves to sleep. Anyway, it might be a bit of help for that bit anyway. Here are the links if you're interested:

http://www.askmoxie.org/2011/01/tension-increasers.html
http://www.askmoxie.org/2011/01/tension-decreasers.html




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Registered: 12-23-2003
Tue, 02-01-2011 - 10:12am

Oh and is he crawling yet? Teddy had his worst sleep in the weeks right before he learned how to crawl.

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