Hello all- again.
It's been a couple of years since i have been at ivillage. I am back. And need help again. AND i did not realize there was a college board!!!
Background - My dd is 19 and in sophomore year of college. Her first year was not good having many anxiety issues. She has a learning disability and really is about 1 year behind the pack- mentally/socially – but excellent academically.
We had not had a good sophomore- junior year of HS as she latched on to an controlling boyfriend that i could not get her away from and of course I became the enemy and she became sexually active. After 2 years of this - they finally broke up and i thought i was finally out of the woods. Not so. But the damage was done, and we had trust issues and other mother /daughter issues after living a Romeo /Juliet type of existence.
Enter boyfriend #2.... I thought he was a doll, (like i did with the first one too), and he is a doll... and maybe that's the problem. She knew him from HS and on the outside he seems "perfect" – smart, intelligent, cute, kind and she is in love with him, and he makes her happy and he is VERY respectful of us, her parents ... sounds good? (I was almost in love too!)
Here's the problem: I just found out that many of the things he has been telling us.. which seemed interesting or farfetched, may actually be lies. She met him in her senior year in HS, and all of her friends thinks he is charming and wonderful!!!! Which we though too... until things started to unravel. Thy have been dating for 2 years now
First problem.. He is muslim.. not a problem for us,,,, but of course for his parents so since the beginning he has told us, his parents don’t know, and would not understand his relationship with our daughter, so we went along with trying to understand this issue, since it did also happen for both my husband and myself as well, when we were younger and wanted to date outside our faith. We are not terribly religious and this really does not bother us. BUT... while we would drop him off down the block from his home, where he said he lived... IS NOT his actual Home - we just found out. He claims his parents do not want him out after dark, and needed to be home by dark , so respectfully we would get him home all summer long... before dark.. my daughter nicknamed him - her vampire! He told us, that his parents believe bad things happen after dark... but when he is college - there is no such restriction?
This all started to get weird after he told my daughter - HE had stage 4 lung cancer and stage 2 leukemia - back in July.. right before my dd’s birthday - lost a whole weekend crying over this boy and my daughters' love for him... We have truly come to love him - even though we knew he would probably break off with her eventually - (even thought she does not see or believe this). He told my dd he has 4 years to live… and he has known for 6 months already.
He told us he has cancer.. yet each week he would tell us that the study he is in, will be starting "next month" (supposedly it started in Sept.) He has supposedly left college for "treatment" but his answers about treatment are very "read from a script" or do not make sense...... " they are treating the leukemia, because the lung cancer is not an issue right now"?????? WHAT!!!? He claims he is ok with the radiation, and has not side affects but the drs will not let him attend college until he is better. Therefore he is taking a break from college, but visiting my daughter at her college whenever he "can",. I told several of my friends an coworkers who know this boy, and us.. and all say.. there is something not right, and all of this does NOT ring true. When i press my daughter.. all she says is - you know what i know.. as he tells us all info... and he never looks or acts sick.
A month ago he visited my daughter at college and she asked us to - we drove him home and just before we dropped him off at the end of his "block" and while talking about his new permit... i asked to see his funny picture which he kept talking about... (but i wanted to see his address.... the address on the DMV permits was NOT Seneca Rd., like he said.. it showed Flanders Ave #2....WHAT! SO we dropped him off in the spot he wanted.. and waited.. to see if he went down to Seneca. Guess what. first he was watching our car - so we had to move.. and his watching us let us know... he was up to something. After turning around the car to go in the other direction.. we saw him going away from Seneca and going in the direction of Flanders!!
A few days later while he was visiting at my daughter's school.... my husband checked the mailboxes that are outside the building on Flanders - and found out his name is on one of the mailboxes! His own mailbox? Along with 2 other boxes with the same last name.
He claims his mother works in an ER in her Pakistani/Muslim Garb - and only treats women... and the hospital allows this - since she can't treat men (??) And when I looked up his mom’s name, as she is supposed to be a dr with a NY license…nothing comes up on the NY Registry. She does not exist.
I asked him the Dr with whom is is getting treatment at the hospital.. that name does not come up either. Anything I try to verify.. I cannot.. and I cannot speak to his parents either.. IT is a win-win for him. Nothing to validate.
He has told us that his father, not only owns the Seneca house.. but others as well… and we believed him. Just last week I found 2 websites that will tell you the owner of a house… and according to them..His father is NOT the owner of the house on Seneca, nor on Flanders! But he just recently told my dd that his Uncle owns the Flanders building.
So.. now my stomach is in knots… why is he lying and do I tell my daughter. And how much do I tell her. And will she believe us.
I have even told him – he must tell his best friend just in case he really gets sick, so my dd has a contact to know info.. but he claims he will… each time we speak.. he will, he just hasn’t yet.
The permit is the easiest thing,, as we can tell her that we saw this and it does not make sense. BUT he can say he gets his mail at the uncles… and she will believe it… (I want to see him actually walk in or out for further proof)
Every time this boy comes to my house to see her or visits for the weekend my daughters school – which is now getting to be almost every weekend since he is not at his school … I am getting sick and concerned. She now stays with her girlfriend who lives off campus – just so she can have him stay for the weekend.
I do not know what to say of IF I should say anything at all.. as she is 19 and will only kill the messenger if they have bad news. I remember telling girlfriends when I was younger that her boyfriend was cheating /lying/ etc and she hated me..and stayed with him anyway.. until they were ready to see the truth.. but by them.. I was the outcast.
This is my daughter…not a friend - do I tell her that my husband and I saw the permit a month ago .. or not. Do I tell her he may be lying about other things .. or not. Do I have my husband tell her.. so that I am not part of this?? She may trust my husband more…. And then.. when to tell… do we wait for thanksgiving when she is home? Or just do it when we see her next. Or wait till after xmas… so we do not ruin this for her…….
She is still putting school first.. and doing well, as far as I know. I know her world will crash if she does believe us…. Or she will be against us again
I have also thought of having a friend ask for his permit in front of her to show her this info… and then discuss.
OR do we just fess up and tell her how concerned we are that he is lying –not just to his parents but to all of us too…
Part of me says it’s her life.. stay out.. BUT I believe he is a liar and what else is he lying about??… and she is an innocent and does not question anything.
Or do I stay devious and try to not be a target? What to do??
One more thing. A friend has mentioned that he may be involved with a muslim group or some jihad.. which may trump school.. If he has no reason to live - so i am VERY concerned... or stupidly buying into a stereotype and worried for not reason.
My husband - who says many of this make no sense... seems to also live in ignorant bliss.
So I don’t know how concerned i should be… or not to be, and only driving myself crazy... for now.